Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrZ View Post
Never said it was a great idea but the topic was what was needed to reliably HQ 3 star and potentially 4 star. pBp wasn't an essential. Now when it comes to Master books ii, it will take more gil and probably twice the number of attempts but it can still be reliably done without pBp or reclaim.

Reliable is not the same as successful, reliable just means with some consistency. Being successful is not only linked to being profitable but to being popular and only having a few 50s in crafting would definitely not lead to trust in others to increase ones popularity as a crafter.

P.S. my original post said that Byrgot's was an as essential cross class skill and the only one i really consider to be essential to reliably 3/4 star crafts. Also reclaim making a lot of sense would make it at best a nice to have, not an essential skill to completing a craft reliably. By it's function, reclaim isn't completing a craft in the first place.
I was only talking about the tokens to be honest, as those need to be unlocked in the first place.

To reliably HQ those I do think PbP and Byregot's are essential. (along with sh2 and some l15 ones ofc)

For 3 and 4* normal crafts, as long as you have sh2 and l15 skills, i'm fairly sure I'd have a decent HQ rate without any l50 skills, if starting with all HQ mats. GS>AT with 10/11 stacks is quite effective if I remember correctly.