Thread: Specialist System in 3.0

Originally Posted by giantslayer

Think Specialist system = boost for casual / single-class crafters.

The more I'm seeing the more I'm thinking this is the way it is intended... and frankly I approve if this is the case. If it means more people will craft because they need only level 1-3 specific crafts they'll find useful then to me that opens up the market board to more people that are willing to buy ingots, leathers, and cloths for the things they aren't specialized in.

Hopefully this is one step of many toward making crafting more useful and increasing the demand on the market board.

Originally Posted by Sibyll

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So long as the specialist thing allows for exclusive recipes and skills exclusive to that class only, I don't see too much of a problem. Having three specialization is enough for you to take what you want toward your main (say, CRP and LTW for my bard) and a third such as culinary. Especially if they have raid-worthy equips like I mentioned before.

Worse case scenario? It becomes a repeat of what we have now; crafted armor is next to useless except for glamour (or kirimu coat 2.0 if itemization is that bad). Weapons have no place except for glamour and GSM becomes master race (again) because of accessories. Making the skills cross-able would also be a bad idea since one will inevitably become better than another while others remain useless (looking at you LTW)

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

So long as the specialist thing allows for exclusive recipes and skills exclusive to that class only, I don't see too much of a problem. Having three specialization is enough for you to take what you want toward your main (say, CRP and LTW for my bard) and a third such as culinary. Especially if they have raid-worthy equips like I mentioned before.

Worse case scenario? It becomes a repeat of what we have now; crafted armor is next to useless except for glamour (or kirimu coat 2.0 if itemization is that bad). Weapons have no place except for glamour and GSM becomes master race (again) because of accessories. Making the skills cross-able would also be a bad idea since one will inevitably become better than another while others remain useless (looking at you LTW)

Actions? Sure that's fine.
Recipes? NO! Why force us to make alts, defeats purpose of armory system.

Originally Posted by ZephyrZ

Actions? Sure that's fine.
Recipes? NO! Why force us to make alts, defeats purpose of armory system.

You'd need an alt if you wanted to access every single recipe at a single given time. You can still change your specialization and having your choice of 3 out of 8 would allow for some diversity in the market, assuming the don't follow same trend as 2.0 with body pieces/weapons being useless or GSM accessories being master race for progression clears.

Originally Posted by Sibyll

The people howling that they are being forced to level alts are doing so on a personal restriction they place on themselves.

That's very true, but it's also a valid concern.. Where is this "Armoury" system going?
I really enjoy being able to make everything I ever need on my own, that independence is what keeps me progressing through my crafting classes, it's not even about competing in all markets or dominating them, there's not enough time in a day to make enough gear to control the entire market anyway... But not having my name stamped on all my gear, or not being able to make full gear for my combat classes and having to ask people to make it for me etc.. is just too much hassle. Not that I can't get it done, I'd just rather do it myself. I like that freedom.

Originally Posted by GenJoe

That's very true, but it's also a valid concern.. Where is this "Armoury" system going?

I like the freedom as well. It's possible they are realizing that the Armory system doesn't turn out well for the market board when all the dedicated crafters can be every crafter/gatherer. They'd need to modify something so that it's more beneficial to focus on one crafter rather than be everything, as right now crafters are Jack of all trade, Master of All.

Armoroy system works for DoW/DoM because even though you can be every class that doesn't necessarily mean you are going to be equally geared and proficient with every class. With DoH/DoL if you are geared and proficient with one then you are equally proficient, and likely geared, with all the others. This leads to a saturation of DoH/DoL classes that you'd never see being a problem with DoW/DoM.

Right now there really isn't any incentive for a crafter to focus on a couple of crafts. If you were to do this you are only putting yourself at a disadvantage.