Thread: Specialist System in 3.0

Originally Posted by Sibyll

Looking at how many useless skills the crafting classes have, I think there is a lot of room for improvement. I mean, how often do you actually use Standard and Advanced Touch in end-game crafting?

All the time, especially for my last touch before BB if I have the CP to blow but not enough for a Manipulation. GS + ST can be really nice right before GS + BB, if you have 64 more CP than you need. My 15 step 100% (even on poor BB) rotation for 1-2*s also uses AT to great effect, but I don't think that's what you mean.

EDIT: I've even used Observe to great effect (14-17 CP more than needed for BB, GS with 2 turns left, Normal condition - Observed, condition changed to Good). There really aren't that many completely useless skills, just Flawless Synthesis, though some people swear by it for low level elemental synths. There are, however, some skills so situational they're really not good, like Flawless and the Brands.

Originally Posted by Nyalia

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I used Observe a lot during Master II Books. Observe has a clear reason to exist. Basic Touch, to a limited extent, does as a more reliable alternative to Hasty Touch if you are getting a lot of TotT procs. Standard and Advanced Touch are incredibly niche. The example you gave is basically the only time I use it as well, and it's rare that happens. There are a lot of "IFs" that need to be met for those to be useful which begs the question why did they even bother having these abilities in the first place.

I agree, Flawless and Brands are very pointless. However, if you could take another cross class skill for dumping Standard/Advanced Touch you probably would. When I have so much free CP that I would use these skills in a 4* recipe I generally already know I'd hit 100% without it.