Thread: Specialist System in 3.0

Originally Posted by nuyu11

Sorry Noob questions here.

I just hit lvl 50 with my Bard, thinking about lvling my DOH.
I've heard you guys keep mention about alt,
I thought we can't trade between our own character.
You mean alt is another separate account?

Due to the nature of crafters, many are either officer ranks in most FCs.
OR they're given a more lenient FC chest privileges than most.

So if your alt is on the same FC as your main, you can move stuff around using the chest.

Originally Posted by Gillionaire

Regardless of how accurate people's speculations may be, specialist means specialist. I don't think there's any ambiguity there.

You could call the current crafting system a specialist system, with 8 different specialties. The ambiguity is whether or not the new specialist system requires you to choose an exclusive path or not.

I think that multicraft restriction will benefit market speculants. I myself prefer to sell final products, such products often needs crafted components from other classes. If i will become unable to prduce such components, i will need to buy it on the market - so, the role of such components will grow. Most of components are stackable and this makes them more useful for market speculations - this requires 99 times less storage space. So - it will come to the game (.

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

You could call the current crafting system a specialist system, with 8 different specialties. The ambiguity is whether or not the new specialist system requires you to choose an exclusive path or not.

Awwww come on, you know CLEARLY that they were not referring to the current system as a "specialist" system.. when they said the S word, they know it means something significant. We just have to wait and see what that holds for us, but many of us feel strongly that it will be some sort of lockout.

Originally Posted by Alx789

I think that multicraft restriction will benefit market speculants. I myself prefer to sell final products, such products often needs crafted components from other classes. If i will become unable to prduce such components, i will need to buy it on the market - so, the role of such components will grow. Most of components are stackable and this makes them more useful for market speculations - this requires 99 times less storage space. So - it will come to the game (.

That sounds good for you, but what about people who specialize in refined mats? (rose gold nuggets, dark steel nuggets, ingots, twinthread, hippo leather etc.)
If they introduce a system which will simply add a chain of distribution along the way, all it'll do is increase the price of finished product.

Now the system is in such a way that you profit from both the cost of the raw materials AND the refining it takes to get the finished product. i.e. when people make accessories for example, they calculate the material cost in terms of gold ore, not rose gold nuggets and add the shard prices etc. that's how some people sell a finished product for less than the price of its components because there's still profit to be made.
Imagine, however; that you were force to buy rose gold nuggets, hard hippo leathers, etc. sure it would circulate a lot more gil around the market, but the finished product will end up costing more.

Originally Posted by Nyalia

Prices are set by the person who is selling it for the cheapest. There would still be someone with an alt who can make the mats they can't make on their main, and that person would have even more control over the market. A specialization system does not just benefit the casual crafter over the "hardcore" crafter. The "hardcore" crafters (top 1%) will benefit from that sort of system the most.

I agree, that's certainly what I would do.. I already have alts for desynths so it's not a huge stretch.. and I'm sure you probably do too, you wrote the book on desynthing :P

Originally Posted by Nyalia

Prices are set by the person who is selling it for the cheapest. There would still be someone with an alt who can make the mats they can't make on their main, and that person would have even more control over the market. A specialization system does not just benefit the casual crafter over the "hardcore" crafter. The "hardcore" crafters (top 1%) will benefit from that sort of system the most.

Nyla, Do you consider yourself a hardcore crafter? Are you part of Eorzea's 1%? Do you have a guess as to how much gil it takes?

Originally Posted by Squand

Nyla, Do you consider yourself a hardcore crafter? Are you part of Eorzea's 1%? Do you have a guess as to how much gil it takes?

lol do you not know who Nyalia is?? She's certainly top of the ranks.

If you are simply asking her opinion on what kind of gil 1% is.. I'd say it depends on the server but 100million+ sounds about right from what I've seen on Jenova.