Thread: Specialist System in 3.0

I can't believe how dense you both are. First off, one of the first 4 star crafters across all servers and had all 8 lucis within 24 hours of release. I been crafting while you were still in your mothers womb sucking your thumbs. Walk before you run.

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Have you done any 3-4★ crafting? You need a good amount of IQ stacks to be able to get a good rate of HQ for high level crafts. PbP, inno, CZ and CSII are also pretty damn essential; even if you start at 394 CP, thats nowhere near enough if you have to use up more steps for progression and less for quality.

You need a minimum of 9 and with a solid rotation you should rarely if ever get less than that. 11 is ideal and easy as well. If you had read my post, i mentioned pbp being essential. However innovation is not because most of the time a GS + BB is your finisher, chances are you won't even have the cp for an inno. CZ is a great skill but is in no way necessary. Two cz's per craft is roughly 1 lost ToT. On the other hand, CSII is a waste of a cross class in most cases because there is no difference between 120% and 100% progress gained when you complete the synth in the same number of steps, make sure to run your synth under stead hand like you normally would.

Originally Posted by Sibyll

I'm assuming this is if you don't want to do anything higher than 2*, unless you are saying it's a good idea to do Mastercraft II books without Reclaim and with PbP and Comfort Zone being optional. How are you building IQ stacks for your Byregot's? Basic Touch 11 times?

Silly silly child, the point is that they aren't necessary. The rotation isn't as optimized for master books 2 but it can stiill be done regardless. 7 steps, comparerd to 6. 5x RS + 2x SS. You can get master book 2 without reclaim, won't be cheap but it can be done.

The whole topic was about what is essential to reliably craft 3 and 4 star. The only esssential skills are level 15, 37 and bb at 50. There are already several RS rotations that you can look up if you can't figure it out yourself that complete 4 star synth in 5 or 6 steps. You can use RS to gain most of the progress and finish with BS & SS. The essential crafting skills that we use such as Master's Mend 1 and 2, GS are available to every class.

Naturally the more cross class skills you obtain, the more wiggle room you have but that in no way makes them essential. Blood for blood, lets you put out a lot more damage but that in no way makes it essential to being a good dps or even hit the dps checks required for fcob. It lets you hit above the dps check but that doesn't make it essential, it makes it a nice to have and makes u a successful dps.

Originally Posted by scarebearz

For unlocking Master II books PbP is pretty much essential, unless you want to waste a lot of mats.

For my Alt, I waited until I had Carp, Arm and Alch 50 (cul 37 and rest 15) before unlocking the master II books, I was using the quest mainhand tool and easily got 3HQ before I made 5 NQ (for supra).

So I think I could have done them without Alch 50, but could not have without Byregot's and PbP. (though I agree PbP is not needed for "normal" 3*/4* crafts, but you need to unlock 4* first xD)

If people already have their Supra tool, Reclaim makes a lot of sence.

Never said it was a great idea but the topic was what was needed to reliably HQ 3 star and potentially 4 star. pBp wasn't an essential. Now when it comes to Master books ii, it will take more gil and probably twice the number of attempts but it can still be reliably done without pBp or reclaim.

Reliable is not the same as successful, reliable just means with some consistency. Being successful is not only linked to being profitable but to being popular and only having a few 50s in crafting would definitely not lead to trust in others to increase ones popularity as a crafter.

P.S. my original post said that Byrgot's was an as essential cross class skill and the only one i really consider to be essential to reliably 3/4 star crafts. Also reclaim making a lot of sense would make it at best a nice to have, not an essential skill to completing a craft reliably. By it's function, reclaim isn't completing a craft in the first place.

I am not arguing that to be a successful crafter, you need all of the cross class skills. In fact i leveled them all to 50 back in 2.0 days. Profit is important and popularity is built over time.