Thread: Specialist System in 3.0

Originally Posted by Grekumah

Since the new system regarding the Disciples of the Hand, tentatively referred to as crafting specialists, pertains to Heavensward, we ask that you please hang on until we release more concrete information as we get closer to release. However, it will be possible to have various specializations on a single character. Hang tight a bit longer!

I think people want to know how many specializations they get per character, so they can get ready by leveling the correct number of alts and get they ready for heavensward. Is it going to be 3 specializations like desynth?

If specialization means that you have to pick one cross class skill over another then that would be fine because it would open the door for multiple rotations, however if specializations means that you lose out on some recipe's, then we have a problem!

Originally Posted by Grekumah

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While i agree with waiting and i don't want to regurgitate what other people have already said. The entire crafting system is currently set up around competition rather than cooperation. Not being able to max every desynth created inflation on items whose base value shouldn't be so high in the first place (culinarian as an example). At first, forcing people to only be able to max 3 was fine but as time progressed i believe that all 8 should be able to be capped at 1000 while still increasing 2 or 3 even higher to accommodate the new desynth cap raise.

Without a MASSIVE overhaul of the market board system and reliance of cross class skills as well as cross class mats, i see nothing good coming from forcing specializations upon up, in fact i have no desire in leveling another battle class to 60 through what i thought were boring story quests, the armory system was the selling point for me.

What if it is a relic system for crafters - you can get them all but good luck... alts won't save you here. *Maniacal laughter*

Originally Posted by Sylkis

What if it is a relic system for crafters - you can get them all but good luck... alts won't save you here. *Maniacal laughter*

Well, if it's a relic system for crafters, it must have no combat pre-requisites.. Maybe have it a pre-req but purchasable on the MB? (like how the pre-relic weapons require crafter to make/meld but people can just pay for it instead of having to make their own crafter)

Then that'll cut down on the time significantly.

Unless they make us just craft hundreds of recipes for the sake of giving us a time consuming "challenge"

But overall, I like the idea of having a relic equivalent to crafting.. that would give me something to do.

I have mixed feelings about specialization. When I first started, I only was interested in being a master weaver. As I progressed, I realized I needed to level everything else for cross class skills to be better at weaving. By the time I leveled all the ones I needed for cross class, there were only a couple left, so I figured I may as well do them all. Along the way I discovered new ways to make money with some of these other classes. Now, after an incredible amount of work, I am finally at the top: I can craft any item in the game. It feels good to be 100% capable of anything crafting related. My opinion of grinding 8 crafting classes alternates between "get to" and "have to."

I will reserve judgment on the new system until there are real details. If done well, I could probably accept it.

i predict 3 just like desynth.

could be 4. sigh.

I would really like to hear more on this topic. Heavensward is right around the corner. I think it would be in SE's best interest to discuss it now, where the community can actually provide feedback & SE can make adjustments before we are stuck with something concrete. We have people who are completely opposed to the idea of specializations. Then we have people who want 3 specializations (Which at that point why have specializations at all). Then we have those who want to be restricted to one crafting class in order to have exclusive recipes. So which is it? Also, does that mean that cross class abilities from other crafting classes will not be able to be used, essentially rendering hundreds of hours spent by player leveling said classes meaningless?

What was the point in mentioning it at PAX at all if you were not going to actually clarify what it is? The only thing you achieved in doing was creating confusion. The PAX presentation was terrible no real new information at all other than the release date. You also said there would be a new loot system for raids but again gave no actual information on it. Seriously, why even bother?