Thread: Specialist System in 3.0

Originally Posted by Orangard

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Well this specialization system won't cater to casuals because it locks them in place when someone has the market they are in on lock. If someone is controlling the market they are the ones making gil not the wait and see people. So this system is only screwing with the hardcore by making alts to compete with the others that also did .

And the main reason alot of people never got into crafting was they had to level 8 crafts for the cross class skills but in the interview it sounds like you still have to level them all and then specialize. That's not very casual sounding to me.

If was only for airship building or so people can make unique / untradeable stuff I wouldn't have a problem. Or maybe I can max out a specialization get the recipes then on to the next one would be OK as well but deep down that's not going to happen. They want less items in circulation but they don't care about the price hikes that's going to happen.

Originally Posted by Ranzan

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The MB has no bearing on it. That is player driven. 'Locked' out of a market, or the whole market, does not stop a crafter from crafting. Everyone can still gather.

"However, for crafters up until patch 2.5, rather than the system allowing you to be any of them, to a large extent for more hardcore crafters it required you to be all of them.
... it got to an extreme situation where you had to have full equipment and everything leveled up. So while this was rewarding economincally, we recognizes that it was a tough situation for players who just wanted to have some fun while making products to sell. So we want to go back to the original plan that it's something to do at your own pace, so that's the policy at the heart of our updates with specialists."


" For people that put a lot of time into it, one of the goals of Heavensward and later the patch 3.X series is that they will have a greater economic contribution. One of the new systems is the concept of Specialsts for crafter classes. Like before, it will still be possible to develop all of the crafter classes without limit to level 60. After you finish training, you'll be able to choose a profession to qualify as a Specialist which may provide a special action or special recipes. It will also be possible to choose multiple specializations."

Hmm... sounds like you may or may not have to level all to 60, especially when added to the first quote.

Not being the biggest MB person and not being able to craft are 2 different things.

The devs are moving in a terribly dangerous direction, in my opinion. Instead of designing a vast canvass, so vast that most people don't bother covering the whole canvass, naturally resulting in a specialization economy, the devs have chosen to cut up that canvass with the new system to artificially limit each player's canvass, forcing people to specialize. The weekly capped tomestone is the same philosophy.

If the vast canvass is the liberty and all-men-are-equal society, then the cut-up canvass is the cast system where being born into the "wrong" specialization you'll live with a shaft in your *cough* until the next patch.

Note how Yoshi-P said you could still cap out "all classes" but said you could choose "multiple specializations", not "all specializations". It is obvious that the specialization system is an exclusive one.

Originally Posted by Orangard

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Oh definitely, if you're level headed enough to identify the strategy for what it is.. I'm sure you wouldn't be one of the people falling into those traps..

But sometimes when I'm at a price war against somebody, it does make me worry about how deep their pockets go
Once again, if MB isn't your game, you probably wouldn't be as concerned about that as myself, which is a healthy way to go about it.. But this is MMO and we're not exactly the most reasonable bunch of the gaming World and knowing the few no-lifers that are into the MB even more so than myself, it does make me wonder what effect specialization will bring about.


P.S. and Yes, Jenova definitely needs more people, I think we're the second lowest pop in the entire NA data center and most of my scenarios do have exacerbated consequences from the lack of supply we suffer from.

Same here with Zodiark, but for the EU datacenter. On my server market dominance tends to last longer, because of the low supply.

Originally Posted by Orangard

Now do tell, why I should I wage a trade war with someone? I haven't needed to, nor will I, because again, (and I presume for most) dominating the MB is not my game.

I guess it depends a lot on the server. If someone is dominating a market here it can be hard to get even one sale in, or at a reasonable price.
The effects of specialization will no doubt also vary from server to server.