Is there even a PVP queue ?????

[Stupiduglytaru]

ever since gs was added noone pvps had 8 games last week with stupid ques could do 40+ easily before gs

[Cerevantez]

I aggree with Babette we pay for it !!!!

Its bad and not fair that other Worlds can play Frontline every 20 Minutes and we on Lich wait for 40-300 Minutes o.O
There are enough Worlds to make it Possible that they find a Way that every World wait 15 Minutes for a Match.

Players want to play but the most are so angry that the People PVP dislike and thats not correct :[
And I dont understand that Full Partys dont Pop and when you stay in Queue alonet pops ???
Where is the Sense -_-

[BunnyChain]

I'm glad I managed to get my ADS mount before Gold Saucer came out, now taking a bit of a break from PvP. Adders on Chaos Data Center are just... bad. >.>

[Babette]

Haha, see, 1s otf all worlds has 120 matches... 1st player on Lich has played 34 matches, which is 4 times less on a week. He is not even in top 100 of all worlds.
Gold Saucer should be locked the day, and opened only on a short period, chocobo races must not be the new "dungeon" to farm.
Plus, if SE adds new special cards that can be otained only from PvP, maybe we would see more players in ! Just to say, if they really wanted to do something, they could...

[Buff_Archer]

I'm glad I managed to get my ADS mount before Gold Saucer came out, now taking a bit of a break from PvP. Adders on Chaos Data Center are just... bad. >.>

OMG that goes to show how unfair this system is. Those of us who try really damn hard but get allied with a lot of weaker players can just lose over and over and over, and people in the other GC's get their mounts that much faster and we get them that much slower. And sad thing is, someone in the dominant GC on a datacenter who doesn't even play well will get carried to more wins than those who put everything they have into it will get because of being held back by the people they have to queue up with.

I've thought this week about swapping to get enough wins for my ADS mount and swapping back, but that would mean being unable to access my PVP rank related rewards earned up to now and on principle alone that makes me sick. it's going to affect my PVP and PVE loadouts as well, not just glamour we're talking about.

I'm listing this because I want SE to see a direct example of how this affects a player who has worked very hard to get where they are in PVP. And then apply this concept to anything else in end game, where changing who you can run instances with means a reversal of progression. (New static? Sorry can't equip the Dreadwyrm gear you earned with your old one for a few hundred more matches. Lore!)

Currently equipped PVE-viable gear I would not be able to use if I change GC and PVP rank is reset:
- Birdliege bow (i110 Crit/Det bow)
- Werewolf ring of Aiming (i110)
- Wolfliege Staff (i110 BLM staff)
- Hellwolf Ring of Fending (i100 Vit/Crit/Det)
- Batliege Soto (i110 Crit/Det weapon)
- 3 Pieces Batliege i110 Ninja armor (chest/arms/shoes)
- Elkliege gloves (i110 SCH Crit/Det)
- Elklord Grimoire (i110 SCH Crit/Det)
- Elkliege Belt (i110 SMN)
- Snakeliege Spear (i110 DRG Crit/SS)
- 4 Pieces left side DRG armor

Glamour that would be lost if I change GC and PVP rank is reset:
- Birdsong Coat
- Birdsong Gloves
- Elkhorn Hat
- Ninja hat matching Batliege armor above
- Scholar boots
* and yes I know this isn't all bis but that's beside the point, we have multiple types of gear for a reason and some of this has better secondary stats than some of my i120 gear. If I had worked on relic upgrade instead of PVP that wouldn't get taken away to regrind it if I wanted to run instances with a different set of people.

Maybe there's more but the exercise of figuring out that I wouldn't be able to use all these if I want to swap to the GC that wins makes me really mad. On top of the disappointment from not being able to enjoy this part of the game anymore. I did a Secure run in between typing this and just like the several before it, half the Twin Adders party was on point, and half roamed around aimlessly treating Secure mode like their own personal Slaughter match as usual and they were not where they were supposed to be for the main objectives just like always and we got 2nd place again. Screw second place, and screw the fact I have over 600 games and climbing and no ADS mount while my win rate gets worse and worse because of the GC alignment. The way i feel about all this, if expressed using the language that's going through my head, would almost certainly get me banned from the forums.

[Evangela]

Slaughter mode killed PvP in general. lots of people don't do PvP anymore.

[kpxmanifesto]

Aether queues are good tonight for immortal flames. 72 man slaughter queue popping every 5-10 minutes.

[zeopower6]

Primal queues were STRANGE earlier today. 72 pops one after another in an 8 man premade.

[Cidolfas86]

Slaughter mode killed PvP in general. lots of people don't do PvP anymore.

Some of us who backed off are still waiting, futility from the looks of GC restrictions remaining, that things will change. However I have no faith anymore that they will. It doesn't seem like they're really listening or taking our feed back seriously for any PvP mode.

Aether queues are good tonight for immortal flames. 72 man slaughter queue popping every 5-10 minutes.

It was an odd night tonight for sure. I haven't gotten large number of ques like that since slaughter first came out. Most matches I play these days are limited to 24 man secure/slaughter if I hit the roulette, partially because not enough people are queing for bigger matches. Sometimes I can catch a 72 man but thats very rarely, and I haven't played a 72 man Secure EVEN ONE TIME since slaughter came out :/

[Jamein]

PVP is dead and will remain dead as long as the GC restriction remains in place.

Now lets all wait for somebody to come in here and tell me how the lore prevents it's removal, as if SE doesn't make the lore and can't do whatever they want.

Forever this.
Gameplay > Lore.

Why this was even implemented in the first place is beyond me, right from the get go we all knew the GC resitrictions would be nothing but hassle, long que times and unable to que with friends if they are in a different GC. SE dropped the ball on this one.