Progression locks are bad

[technole]

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We then asked him to join us in a T9 to help a FC friend out for the kill, but he 'didn't feel comfortable with the fight'... One can only imagine, what the reason was (prolly bought the kill).

Personally anyone FCoB eligible and says they are still uncomfortable with T9 is a red flag. Granted the early turns of FCoB aren't anywhere near the mechanics execution needed in T9, it still is a good test. On the flip-side it has that RNG factor and it is possible to never have personally gotten all the testy stuff (garrote twist, fire, thunder, thermionic, divebombs) themselves. It's sometimes why T9 farm parties can fail, someone gets a mechanic for the first-time and they brain-freeze.

So yeah, it's not just about getting the kill.

[KarstenS]

You can find 10 statics to join for FCOB with any role any day of the week, but the difficulty of finding these groups for the older content is often underestimated by players who got the kill while it was current tier.

You should also think in the view of the groups that are advertising lfm for final coil.

What do they expect? People that have beaten the earlier content and know how to play their class nearly at optimum and, very important, how to play in a group.

If the gates T5 and 9 would be removed, these groups would get flooded by requests of people in full poetics gear, max 150 dps and absolutely no clue about how to coil or how to play in a group. That is not what these groups are looking for.

It sounds elitist. But when you really think about it, removing that gates would destroy more groups, than it would help to form them.

As I know from many groups that were looking for new players for final coil, they are mostly willing to help people through t5 and t9, if they are good and show the needed effort to learn these things.

[Spoekes]

You should also think in the view of the groups that are advertising lfm for final coil.

What do they expect? People that have beaten the earlier content and know how to play their class nearly at optimum and, very important, how to play in a group.

If the gates T5 and 9 would be removed, these groups would get flooded by requests of people in full poetics gear, max 150 dps and absolutely no clue about how to coil or how to play in a group. That is not what these groups are looking for.

It sounds elitist. But when you really think about it, removing that gates would destroy more groups, than it would help to form them.

Don't quote me on it, but I read multiple times that T10-12 are considered easier than T9, even by the developers, so the first part does not really make sense.

Even without taking the above into account, I don't agree with the sentiment that the removal of gating would destroy groups.

[Callinon]

Even without taking the above into account, I don't agree with the sentiment that the removal of gating would destroy groups.

It doesn't in any other game.

[Yumi_umi]

Se having old content still locked doesn't have to make sense.
Maybe they forgot or maybe they will get to it sometime before 3.0.
Or perhaps they just don't care cuz they can spend all that caring on how to execute 3.0.
Maybe they will change how they lock things in the future, maybe they won't.

Just bide ur time and save all the hooplah for 3.0 raiding cuz if ur in the "hopeless" situation atm then starting fresh into the raiding scene ( clearing content when its the "hot" new thing ) is probably the best approach.
3.0 is probably the make it or break it moment for a lot of ppl as the carrot on the stick, weekly loot lockout, 1 static raid group, tome gear is tiring them out.
Another year of this? Hopefully not.