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    Tauu Aori
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    I imagine even a top of the line PC sees a FPS hit in crowded areas with all NPCs and PCs being displayed. The option to limit this should be included in the PS4 version. I'm pretty sure the PS3 version has the limit without an option to disable it since doing so would kill the system. lol
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    Mito Mito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauu View Post
    I imagine even a top of the line PC sees a FPS hit in crowded areas with all NPCs and PCs being displayed. The option to limit this should be included in the PS4 version. I'm pretty sure the PS3 version has the limit without an option to disable it since doing so would kill the system. lol
    We do see a drop but our fps range is far higher. In dungeons 190+ FPS, map 80-170 FPS and in cities 40-70 FPS.

    Till DX12 comes, it will helps on crowded cities to handle drawcalls better.
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    Coriander Silverflame
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    I play on PS4 mostly but also on PC. I think there are two graphical modes for FFXIV on the PS4, but I always run it at "full hd" or whatever the best setting is, but limiting spell effects for people not in my party, mainly for better visibility. Slows down slightly in Revenant's Toll and maybe for S-rank/Odin with tons of people, but neither one has interfered with game play. A huge fat chocobo vs. magitek armor battle in Revenant's Toll was rendered just fine, and I turned on effects for that because it looked awesome. Gold Saucer on patch day was probably the most noticeable slowdown, but it wasn't terrible. One thing I did notice is that load time is definitely faster if you install an SSD in your PS4, and this also seems to help on PC.

    That being said, having more graphics settings on the PS4 would probably be OK for me, as I would set them once and then mostly forget about them.

    Going back to PS3 was bizarre because now the PS3 version seems to limit the number of characters on screen, making RT look like a ghost town except for your immediate vicinity... I swear it was not always that way but was added in a patch at some point. But I do remember some slow loading issues on PS3 where it would take a long time for a FATE group to display, and the boss might not even appear on your screen before the end of the FATE... teleports and zone loads were also pretty slow off the hard drive...
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    I watched tests of ssd on PS4 and its not faster at all, maybe a few seconds but the PS4 seems to be hardware limited so SSD's have little effect on the PS4, seems 7200RPM is also little better than a 5400 rpm, seems to be the way they optimized the loading? (BF4 on my PS4 takes 20 seconds to load a map, on my PC HDD 4 min, SSD 1 min) That's why i upgraded my PS4 HDD to a 2TB 5400 one and it's awesome.

    I'll make a video to show the lagg on PS4 in 10 min and you can see how chronic it really is, i have a GTX 970 on my PC and on normal NPC quantity i'm lucky if i get 30 fps in Mor.
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    Those who do have the issues it is your connection. I too have not had such issue splaying on PS4, PS3 on the other hand was ..... yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Those who do have the issues it is your connection. I too have not had such issue splaying on PS4, PS3 on the other hand was ..... yeah
    I dont have network lag, i have FPS lag, and this game is not FPS server side dependent like games such as Arma 3, this video i'm linking is just an example of what i mean, this is about 1/4th of the players here when prime time tonight, ill make another then, but as you can see without feeling it the low fps, that's ~20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTz7...TFRKjV8vt_-ZzQ
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    I don't have issue or notice any issue with Ps4 in crown area even GS day 1 or Odin fate or S rank. However I personally don't afk in crown area like GS or rev or in any main city, both Ps4 and PC (yes, I play on both platform). Also, how do you check DPS on ps4 ? I don't remember see that on Ps4 system
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    I don't have issue or notice any issue with Ps4 in crown area even GS day 1 or Odin fate or S rank. However I personally don't afk in crown area like GS or rev or in any main city, both Ps4 and PC (yes, I play on both platform). Also, how do you check DPS on ps4 ? I don't remember see that on Ps4 system
    Well there's ways to do it like digital foundry on yotube etc, or you can load up the PC version, limit the fps to 30, then compare it and feel it on PS4, when you run like a slide show in MOR you know the fps is under 20, 25 fps is relatively smooth, 30 is very fine and anything under 20 is a pain to watch, ill make a video BRB.
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    I've got the same problem on my ps4. Not only in crowded areas - also in forest, desert, only in one direction, and when other cast at FATE. And this is not the network lag, ping is ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butheart View Post
    I've got the same problem on my ps4. Not only in crowded areas - also in forest, desert, only in one direction, and when other cast at FATE. And this is not the network lag, ping is ok.
    It's always hard to stabilize MMO's on console because one minuet there can be nothing and the next tons, but FFXIV has the option to stop this by turning off 100 people down to 20 for example, this is AMAZING and makes the game playable even on old computers, the problem is they refuse to add it to the PS4, so when we are in a gfx demanding area, with 100+ people on screen it goes to sub 20 fps, i would be happy having 60 fps on PS4 at all times and only seeing up to 30 people.

    I think i know why they don't because they don't want people to rely on playing it on lower gfx setting thus making people think the game can't handle ffxiv or something making the game optimization look bad, but guess what laggy 15 fps is bad and it frustraits people like me.
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