Triple Triad NPC Reward % drop rate?!!

[JayCommon]

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While I'm not sure about your theory on the drop rate being relative to the amount of people farming him, I totally believe how many matches you have played. If I were to err on the minimal side, I would offer that I have played the Imperial Indolent at least 3000 times. The matches are fast and the MGP is good.

Ironically enough, I have gotten some of my best cards while rushing through a match because my duty popped (there is my anecdotal theory)

But literally: Bahamut, Odin (from Landenel), Kan-E-Senna and 2nd Merlwyb drop all came with less than 15 seconds on my duty finder whilst rushing a win lol.

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It will be very beneficial to your ability to amass MGP quicker and more efficiently to definitely just take that time to get to 60 cards. Indolent's deck has absolutely nothing against a Scion deck in Ascension. I can literally afk-watch Netflix if I wanted and win against him with the deck. But I don't do that, because I love playing Triple Triad.

It's also why I don't really mind not getting Gaius as well. I am going to play that NPC to farm MGP anyway. I'll get it eventually. I'm not sure where you are in terms of your card collection, but I would definitely take the time to get the 1* cards from the dungeons. The drop rates seemed pretty generous imo. The only dungeon I needed to do more than twice was Pharos Sirius, and I believe that is based on Siren being a 3* card in a relatively low level dungeon in terms of the 50 dungeons.

It was also my experience that the 1* cards you could get from either HM or NM dungeons, had a better drop rate in the NM dungeon. This has had different reports from different people though, so don't take my advice at face value. All I can say is that I did each HM version once first, and for all of them I got the drop on the 1st dungeon I did in the NM difficulty, except Tonberry took me 2 WP NM''s to get.

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I have a pretty good descension deck, so getting wins against Hab doesn't really deter me that much. I really want Fenrir ^^ so I'm going for grind sessions against the Indolent until I get Gaius and it forces me to move on lol. But yeah, I think I dread Rowena/Swift the most. Even with a 3* deck, Chaos still makes consistency against Swift tough. I can beat him much easier now with a 3* deck, but the time window coupled with Chaos makes matches tougher to come by, let alone wins.


And Random is, well Random haha ...at least Louisoix is only a 4* card. Drop rate should be a bit more favorable than the 5* drops from NPCs

[Aeyis]

That's the nature of RNG, which is why a VERY large pool of players

Square's SD on their RNG is absurdly large. It takes a very large pool of players indeed.

The drop rates seemed pretty generous imo

Better then trial or NPC rates for sure. However that is likely due to them being 1* cards. That said, they are not as generous as you believe.
It still took me 6-7 dungeons before I even saw one drop. Had to do some of the other dungeons 4-5 times to get their cards.

[Welsper59]

Square's SD on their RNG is absurdly large. It takes a very large pool of players indeed.

Yup... yup... clearly, I have submitted to the torment of the tyrannical ruler that goes by "RNG".

[Shinun]

RNG is RNG just keep grinding away at them and you'll eventually get them. Shiva took me between 25-30 hours which was the worst of them all so far. Though I'm now grinding Onion Knight so who knows how thatll be

[HakuroDK]

RNG is RNG just keep grinding away at them and you'll eventually get them. Shiva took me between 25-30 hours which was the worst of them all so far. Though I'm now grinding Onion Knight so who knows how thatll be

How in the nine circles of hell do you have Vaan already? I've been trying really hard to get in all of my Roulette matches and I'm still only at 40 or so.

[Shinun]

How in the nine circles of hell do you have Vaan already? I've been trying really hard to get in all of my Roulette matches and I'm still only at 40 or so.

NPCs can get roulette rule via regional rules. Baradon had it and i spent ~3-4 hours grinding it out for 300 wins

[h0tNstilettos]

The higher the rarity the lower the percent chance of a drop. 5 star cards have a drop rate waaaay lower than what atma was even before atma was nerfed. You won't do nearly as many atma fates as you will TT wins to get the drop, unless you are extremely lucky. Basically it's a lower than 1 percent drop rate. My guess is anywhere from 0.001% to 0.005% drop rate. An NPC's most common card seems to have a drop rate of about 20% to 25% since they seem to drop on average 1 every 4 to 5 wins. These are fairly accurate estimates. As for dungeons and trial drops I'm really not sure. Most people get a 5 star trial drop within 60 runs, with exceptions. This would put a 5 star trial drop as 1.6% assuming 1 of every 60 runs will produce a drop. As for the common dungeon drops (aka non-raids), they have the highest percent chance of dropping than any other means of card obtainment. Most of those are 1 or 2 star and seem to have a 30% to 40% drop rate. For packs I have no idea.

[JayCommon]

NPCs can get roulette rule via regional rules. Baradon had it and i spent ~3-4 hours grinding it out for 300 wins

You can also do this with another player, if you can find someone willing to play that many matches against you. The MGP will be crap, but you can just put Roulette as your rule set and each game counts.

[Shinun]

You can also do this with another player, if you can find someone willing to play that many matches against you. The MGP will be crap, but you can just put Roulette as your rule set and each game counts.

Well yes, but if your just after the achievement card it's faster to burn through the roulette regional rule npc, then against players.

[Sibyll]

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Think you might be over estimating how low those percentages are. Myself personally, and others, have played NPCs like King Elmer 50+ times and gotten zero drops from him. As a reference I've seen 15% materia melds fail about as much before I get a success.

I don't think it's lower percentages, I think it's just really skewed RNG that needs to be fine tuned to the sample sizes that an individual would realistically play. Either that ore make it like an achievement where beating an NPC X times will net you Card A and so forth. They could do this with materia melding where instead of a percentage you just need to use increased numbers of a given materia to overmeld higher slots.