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    WwZeLoSwW's Avatar
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    Triple Triad NPC Reward % drop rate?!!

    I have a quention, runing my head day and night.

    Is there any % drop rate on Triple Triad NPCs rewards?! I mean, if a NPC has 3 different cards as a reward, have they the same percentage drop? Is completly random? OR the MOS RARE CARDS HAVE A MINIMUM DROP RATE?!

    Same for the Gold and Silver Triad Card you buy in Golden saucer NPC.

    Golden one has 8 posible rewards, 2 legendary cards included: Have they the same posibility to drop?!

    PLZ I NEED TO KNOW T________T
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    There are no listed numbers, but from personal experience and hearing stories from others, I am pretty sure the higher-star the card is, the lower the chances of acquiring it.

    The legendary cards from the Gold pack, as you call them, are not only 5-star, but they're 5-star with silver borders, which imo makes them closer to a 6-star rarity. This essentially means that those same Legendary cards are actually rarer than their normal bronze-bordered 5-star counterparts.

    tl;dr: The rarer the card, the rarer it is to drop.
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    Well there is no such thing as truly/completely random in as far as computer generated numbers go. They are all designed to mimic as close as possible to such but to date I do not think any has perfected it. The cards all have a drop % chance but you must remember that every single time beat the NPC it is still that same % chance so no matter how many times you beat it depending on your own luck you may or may not ever get it. Based on my best guess I would assume the chance of winning the legendary/collectors cards from those packs is very low, what I am certain of though is those cards are not the same % chance as the rest of the cards within the packs. I would be surprised if the drop % chance of for example Zidane or Warrior of Light is any higher than 1-5% and I would guess it is actually towards the lower end of that estimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    There are no listed numbers, but from personal experience and hearing stories from others, I am pretty sure the higher-star the card is, the lower the chances of acquiring it.

    The legendary cards from the Gold pack, as you call them, are not only 5-star, but they're 5-star with silver borders, which imo makes them closer to a 6-star rarity. This essentially means that those same Legendary cards are actually rarer than their normal bronze-bordered 5-star counterparts.

    tl;dr: The rarer the card, the rarer it is to drop.
    The drop rates seem really weird. I beat King Elmer III about 50-60 times before he dropped any card for me, which happened to be Bahamut. Meanwhile I knew people that had beaten him half as much and gotten about 4 Godberts.

    Could say the same about the dungeon/trial drop rates. Killed Ifrit a dozen times with a premade and no drops. Everyone else got it 1+ times.
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    so, what the hell its going on?


    Could have any drop info in any site?
    Square shall give us that information...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    The drop rates seem really weird. I beat King Elmer III about 50-60 times before he dropped any card for me, which happened to be Bahamut. Meanwhile I knew people that had beaten him half as much and gotten about 4 Godberts.

    Could say the same about the dungeon/trial drop rates. Killed Ifrit a dozen times with a premade and no drops. Everyone else got it 1+ times.
    That's the nature of RNG, which is why a VERY large pool of players outcomes needs to be added to a statistic in order to determine even a remotely accurate drop rate percentage. It is probably safe to say though that 5 star cards are a single digit drop chance, given how frequently you'd come across different people failing to get Bahamut and, especially, Gaius. I got around 14 Godberts before Bahamut dropped. Likewise, I've gotten well over 80 Livia/Rhit and 30 Nero cards from Indolent Soldier, still no Gaius. Granted though, I've won way more frequently against him than King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Likewise, I've gotten well over 80 Livia/Rhit and 30 Nero cards from Indolent Soldier, still no Gaius. Granted though, I've won way more frequently against him than King.

    Same, except compounded. I've gotten at least 200 Livia/Rhit's and a bit over 100 Nero's and still no Gaius. I have no idea how many times I have played him because it's all just a big blur of MGP farm/disappointment lol. The win ratio for me is also similar to yours. When I used beastmen ascension deck I would say my actual win rate hovered somewhere between 60-70% with the rest being draws/losses. When I switched to Scion deck because I have 60 unique cards (about 3 days ago) I have not lost against the Imperial.

    At this point I'll just use the Imperial to farm MGP and maybe try my luck at Gaius in Praetorium. Haven't tried for Hildy or Louisoix yet....I figured my chances were better at getting Gaius with the absurdly high win ratio I was able to sustain against him. My figures are not equaling what I thought they would haha.
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    I feel like it could(probably not) be related to the amount of people playing that NPC as well. For instance I've beat Elmer over 800 times and gotten 0 drops from him; and no I'm not exaggerating 800 times. I've got a handful(read: 50~) wins each on the other popular NPC's also with 0 drops. In fact the only time I've recieved a drop with less then 50 wins is when I'm at an npc with no one or 1-2 people there.

    Of course that's completely anecdotal and while I do keep track of my own progress; I can't tell the legitimacy of what other people are reporting. A good friend of mine has been just as unlucky as I have with drops(around 2k wins total; only recieved 8 cards 3 of which were duplicates).

    So the RNG for drop rate has to be extremely low and thus why so many people are experiencing long droughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    Same, except compounded. I've gotten at least 200 Livia/Rhit's and a bit over 100 Nero's and still no Gaius. I have no idea how many times I have played him because it's all just a big blur of MGP farm/disappointment lol. The win ratio for me is also similar to yours. When I used beastmen ascension deck I would say my actual win rate hovered somewhere between 60-70% with the rest being draws/losses. When I switched to Scion deck because I have 60 unique cards (about 3 days ago) I have not lost against the Imperial.

    At this point I'll just use the Imperial to farm MGP and maybe try my luck at Gaius in Praetorium. Haven't tried for Hildy or Louisoix yet....I figured my chances were better at getting Gaius with the absurdly high win ratio I was able to sustain against him. My figures are not equaling what I thought they would haha.
    /sigh... I really should get around to reaching the 60 card quota and get the Scion cards (only Waifulia and Tataru so far). It's kind of annoying to have little option but to draw when he throws Nero down as the 2nd or 3rd card (or uses it before he uses Gaius) while using the Beastmen setup. I don't mind the void of the Gaius drop too much from my wins since I could always use more MGP, especially considering I dabble with racing feeds and trying for gold pack cards from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    At this point I'll just use the Imperial to farm MGP and maybe try my luck at Gaius in Praetorium. Haven't tried for Hildy or Louisoix yet....I figured my chances were better at getting Gaius with the absurdly high win ratio I was able to sustain against him. My figures are not equaling what I thought they would haha.
    Hildy card was by far the worst for me from NPC's, Zidane and Warrior of Light continue to elude me no matter how many gold decks I buy and same with Lahabrea from the silver packs. The 8 person trials and WoD raid are proving to be extremely bad too for getting the high star cards while the 4 person dungeon cards seems pretty easy so far for me.
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