Triple Triad NPC Reward % drop rate?!!

[HakuroDK]

There are no listed numbers, but from personal experience and hearing stories from others, I am pretty sure the higher-star the card is, the lower the chances of acquiring it.

The legendary cards from the Gold pack, as you call them, are not only 5-star, but they're 5-star with silver borders, which imo makes them closer to a 6-star rarity. This essentially means that those same Legendary cards are actually rarer than their normal bronze-bordered 5-star counterparts.

tl;dr: The rarer the card, the rarer it is to drop.

[Sibyll]

There are no listed numbers, but from personal experience and hearing stories from others, I am pretty sure the higher-star the card is, the lower the chances of acquiring it.

The legendary cards from the Gold pack, as you call them, are not only 5-star, but they're 5-star with silver borders, which imo makes them closer to a 6-star rarity. This essentially means that those same Legendary cards are actually rarer than their normal bronze-bordered 5-star counterparts.

tl;dr: The rarer the card, the rarer it is to drop.

The drop rates seem really weird. I beat King Elmer III about 50-60 times before he dropped any card for me, which happened to be Bahamut. Meanwhile I knew people that had beaten him half as much and gotten about 4 Godberts.

Could say the same about the dungeon/trial drop rates. Killed Ifrit a dozen times with a premade and no drops. Everyone else got it 1+ times.

[WwZeLoSwW]

so, what the hell its going on?


Could have any drop info in any site?
Square shall give us that information...

[Welsper59]

The drop rates seem really weird. I beat King Elmer III about 50-60 times before he dropped any card for me, which happened to be Bahamut. Meanwhile I knew people that had beaten him half as much and gotten about 4 Godberts.

Could say the same about the dungeon/trial drop rates. Killed Ifrit a dozen times with a premade and no drops. Everyone else got it 1+ times.

That's the nature of RNG, which is why a VERY large pool of players outcomes needs to be added to a statistic in order to determine even a remotely accurate drop rate percentage. It is probably safe to say though that 5 star cards are a single digit drop chance, given how frequently you'd come across different people failing to get Bahamut and, especially, Gaius. I got around 14 Godberts before Bahamut dropped. Likewise, I've gotten well over 80 Livia/Rhit and 30 Nero cards from Indolent Soldier, still no Gaius. Granted though, I've won way more frequently against him than King.

[JayCommon]

Likewise, I've gotten well over 80 Livia/Rhit and 30 Nero cards from Indolent Soldier, still no Gaius. Granted though, I've won way more frequently against him than King.

Same, except compounded. I've gotten at least 200 Livia/Rhit's and a bit over 100 Nero's and still no Gaius. I have no idea how many times I have played him because it's all just a big blur of MGP farm/disappointment lol. The win ratio for me is also similar to yours. When I used beastmen ascension deck I would say my actual win rate hovered somewhere between 60-70% with the rest being draws/losses. When I switched to Scion deck because I have 60 unique cards (about 3 days ago) I have not lost against the Imperial.

At this point I'll just use the Imperial to farm MGP and maybe try my luck at Gaius in Praetorium. Haven't tried for Hildy or Louisoix yet....I figured my chances were better at getting Gaius with the absurdly high win ratio I was able to sustain against him. My figures are not equaling what I thought they would haha.

[Welsper59]

Same, except compounded. I've gotten at least 200 Livia/Rhit's and a bit over 100 Nero's and still no Gaius. I have no idea how many times I have played him because it's all just a big blur of MGP farm/disappointment lol. The win ratio for me is also similar to yours. When I used beastmen ascension deck I would say my actual win rate hovered somewhere between 60-70% with the rest being draws/losses. When I switched to Scion deck because I have 60 unique cards (about 3 days ago) I have not lost against the Imperial.

At this point I'll just use the Imperial to farm MGP and maybe try my luck at Gaius in Praetorium. Haven't tried for Hildy or Louisoix yet....I figured my chances were better at getting Gaius with the absurdly high win ratio I was able to sustain against him. My figures are not equaling what I thought they would haha.

/sigh... I really should get around to reaching the 60 card quota and get the Scion cards (only Waifulia and Tataru so far). It's kind of annoying to have little option but to draw when he throws Nero down as the 2nd or 3rd card (or uses it before he uses Gaius) while using the Beastmen setup. I don't mind the void of the Gaius drop too much from my wins since I could always use more MGP, especially considering I dabble with racing feeds and trying for gold pack cards from time to time.

[Snugglebutt]

At this point I'll just use the Imperial to farm MGP and maybe try my luck at Gaius in Praetorium. Haven't tried for Hildy or Louisoix yet....I figured my chances were better at getting Gaius with the absurdly high win ratio I was able to sustain against him. My figures are not equaling what I thought they would haha.

Hildy card was by far the worst for me from NPC's, Zidane and Warrior of Light continue to elude me no matter how many gold decks I buy and same with Lahabrea from the silver packs. The 8 person trials and WoD raid are proving to be extremely bad too for getting the high star cards while the 4 person dungeon cards seems pretty easy so far for me.

[JayCommon]

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While I'm not sure about your theory on the drop rate being relative to the amount of people farming him, I totally believe how many matches you have played. If I were to err on the minimal side, I would offer that I have played the Imperial Indolent at least 3000 times. The matches are fast and the MGP is good.

Ironically enough, I have gotten some of my best cards while rushing through a match because my duty popped (there is my anecdotal theory)

But literally: Bahamut, Odin (from Landenel), Kan-E-Senna and 2nd Merlwyb drop all came with less than 15 seconds on my duty finder whilst rushing a win lol.

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It will be very beneficial to your ability to amass MGP quicker and more efficiently to definitely just take that time to get to 60 cards. Indolent's deck has absolutely nothing against a Scion deck in Ascension. I can literally afk-watch Netflix if I wanted and win against him with the deck. But I don't do that, because I love playing Triple Triad.

It's also why I don't really mind not getting Gaius as well. I am going to play that NPC to farm MGP anyway. I'll get it eventually. I'm not sure where you are in terms of your card collection, but I would definitely take the time to get the 1* cards from the dungeons. The drop rates seemed pretty generous imo. The only dungeon I needed to do more than twice was Pharos Sirius, and I believe that is based on Siren being a 3* card in a relatively low level dungeon in terms of the 50 dungeons.

It was also my experience that the 1* cards you could get from either HM or NM dungeons, had a better drop rate in the NM dungeon. This has had different reports from different people though, so don't take my advice at face value. All I can say is that I did each HM version once first, and for all of them I got the drop on the 1st dungeon I did in the NM difficulty, except Tonberry took me 2 WP NM''s to get.

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I have a pretty good descension deck, so getting wins against Hab doesn't really deter me that much. I really want Fenrir ^^ so I'm going for grind sessions against the Indolent until I get Gaius and it forces me to move on lol. But yeah, I think I dread Rowena/Swift the most. Even with a 3* deck, Chaos still makes consistency against Swift tough. I can beat him much easier now with a 3* deck, but the time window coupled with Chaos makes matches tougher to come by, let alone wins.


And Random is, well Random haha ...at least Louisoix is only a 4* card. Drop rate should be a bit more favorable than the 5* drops from NPCs

[Aeyis]

That's the nature of RNG, which is why a VERY large pool of players

Square's SD on their RNG is absurdly large. It takes a very large pool of players indeed.

The drop rates seemed pretty generous imo

Better then trial or NPC rates for sure. However that is likely due to them being 1* cards. That said, they are not as generous as you believe.
It still took me 6-7 dungeons before I even saw one drop. Had to do some of the other dungeons 4-5 times to get their cards.

[Welsper59]

Square's SD on their RNG is absurdly large. It takes a very large pool of players indeed.

Yup... yup... clearly, I have submitted to the torment of the tyrannical ruler that goes by "RNG".