RealTalk: Dagger Sizes

[BlaiseArath]

Who said they were daggers? Please cite in-game text that explains that NINs only wield daggers.

Clearly, if a PLD is able to wield anything between a gladius and the Curtana, which is arguable something like a broadsword, then its totally reasonable that NINs would have the ability to wield both daggers and long-knives, which I think any of those fit into.

Broadswords and Gladius are still both by any and all accounts you will find, Swords. So your comparison is flawed slightly. Yes there are some Knives longer than others, some daggers smaller, but the real difference between Knife and Dagger is a Dagger is a double sided weapon and a Knife has only one serrated edge. But to keep with the topic at hand, the Khanjar are very large in all senses of the word. Length and Width.

The Khanjars in XIV is about 1/2 the size of my entire Mithran body. their size contradicts the NIN and ROG job/class in general... You're not throwing around a weapon that big with speed and precision, and thats the entire concept of the job lore wise. The entire feel of a rogue-like class is their nimble actions, which is only possibly because they don't use ridiculously oversized and heavy weapons.

As for "Who says NINs [strike]go from 1-10[/strike] only wield daggers?", well, apart from digging around cutscenes for far to many hours knowing full well even if I found proof you wouldn't believe it or change your mind so I'm not wasting my time... the best I got is the jobs lore from release/lodestone...

These agile fighters pride themselves on their skills with knives and daggers to make quick work of enemies.

I see nothing in that saying "Pride themselves on wielding large bulky weapons to slow themselves down" or "Short Swords and Cutlasses" or anything of the sort. you can say something like "Long Knives", but for that sake of argument, I direct you here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife There's nothing about Knives being half the size of a human body like these weapons are. Knives and Daggers do vary in size but I've never seen a Knife half the size of an adult, at that point its a sword of some sort.

I like variety in weapons, Hell I love the Khanjars because I've enjoyed their model since XI, but they are just a bit on the silly side. Its not like I'm demanded they be resized, but I have to acknowledge that they are huge like xbox.

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Gods damn it, I was wondering why the Khanjars looked familiar.

Most of the Golden Saucer glamour weapons are from XI

The bow is "Lamian Kaman"
the WHM Staff is the Staff wielded by certain NM Lamia in XI
the BLM Staff is the Soulflayer staff
the Polearm is the Mamool Ja spear (the one in Wanderer's Palace uses it too)
the Daggers are the Jambiya we're discussing

Blood Sword share a name and similar design to an XI weapon. I don't think the hand-2-hand has anything to do with XI, and the Shield is Odin's.

[Fenral]

Please stop calling the Ninja relic a "katana." Japanese swords of that length and (lack of) curve are called tanto, though the "thick blade" mentioned in the relic quest would make the pair of Yoshimitsu a subtype called a yoroidooshi.

[Evangela]

Please stop calling the Ninja relic a "katana." Japanese swords of that length and (lack of) curve are called tanto, though the "thick blade" mentioned in the relic quest would make the pair of Yoshimitsu a subtype called a yoroidooshi.

ok it's short katana.

[Mimilu]

Can we really use Zidane (or anyone from IX) to show proportion? In Dissidia, he is around Onion Knight's height, who is still a preteen.
Plus, Zidane's daggers/knifes combine to make thief-swords/double-ended swords.

[Edellis]

people make threads about the silliest nuances.

The funny thing is, they're always serious, heartfelt issues that are eating away at OP's mind, enough to warrant a thread and developer insults.

[BlaiseArath]

people make threads about the silliest nuances.

The funny thing is, they're always serious, heartfelt issues that are eating away at OP's mind, enough to warrant a thread and developer insults.

Some people worry/are concerned about X, some about Y... Its no stranger than human nature in general.

[Edellis]

Can we really use Zidane (or anyone from IX) to show proportion? In Dissidia, he is around Onion Knight's height, who is still a preteen.
Plus, Zidane's daggers/knifes combine to make thief-swords/double-ended swords.

Funny enough, I can't recall Zidane being all that short in relation to other NPCs in the game. Majority of the characters in FF9 were on height with him.

I think it was just an art style quip that made him seem short. I wouldn't be surprised if he was average height, really.

[Mimilu]

Funny enough, I can't recall Zidane being all that short in relation to other NPCs in the game. Majority of the characters in FF9 were on height with him.
I think it was just an art style quip that made him seem short. I wouldn't be surprised if he was average height, really.

In the IX world, I think he is average sized but when brought into the world of Dissidia (which that picture is from) and compared to other heroes, he is short.

IX's Height Comparison


Dissidia's Height Comparison

(Zidane is on the right)

[Edellis]

In the IX world, I think he is average sized but when brought into the world of Dissidia (which that picture is from) and compared to other heroes, he is short.

IX's Height Comparison


Dissidia's Height Comparison

(Zidane is on the right)

Huh, interesting.

I'm inclined to believe this was just an idea they had to make him short. Especially when Kuja is significantly taller than him...which, storyline wise, makes no sense.

[Steady]

All this tells me is that there is a variety of dagger choices and you can glamour which you like best.