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    Lusavari's Avatar
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    Over sized daggers are not limited to Square Enix games. It's pretty industry standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Over sized daggers are not limited to Square Enix games. It's pretty industry standard.
    I'd say FFXI would like a word with you but that seems to be the exception to the MMO rules. Their Daggers always felt like daggers but never felt like they were so small it was laughable/weak. its like they actually cared to imagine a proper model size for a dagger . --- I do like my Khanjar's but seriously the first thing i noticed were that they were basically freaking Cutlass sized. They're originally FFXI items as well, "Darksteel Jambiya". Its still my current glamour cause MA NOSTALGIA but dang.

    Edit: Here's a picture of the model. Notice how they still look as dangerous/etc, but also realistically dagger sized.



    I don't really mind the huge daggers alot though.
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    Gods damn it, I was wondering why the Khanjars looked familiar.
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    Who said they were daggers? Please cite in-game text that explains that NINs only wield daggers.

    Clearly, if a PLD is able to wield anything between a gladius and the Curtana, which is arguable something like a broadsword, then its totally reasonable that NINs would have the ability to wield both daggers and long-knives, which I think any of those fit into.

    Some of the weapons are going to be bigger than normal and some will be smaller to add flavor to the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    Who said they were daggers? Please cite in-game text that explains that NINs only wield daggers.

    Clearly, if a PLD is able to wield anything between a gladius and the Curtana, which is arguable something like a broadsword, then its totally reasonable that NINs would have the ability to wield both daggers and long-knives, which I think any of those fit into.
    Broadswords and Gladius are still both by any and all accounts you will find, Swords. So your comparison is flawed slightly. Yes there are some Knives longer than others, some daggers smaller, but the real difference between Knife and Dagger is a Dagger is a double sided weapon and a Knife has only one serrated edge. But to keep with the topic at hand, the Khanjar are very large in all senses of the word. Length and Width.

    The Khanjars in XIV is about 1/2 the size of my entire Mithran body. their size contradicts the NIN and ROG job/class in general... You're not throwing around a weapon that big with speed and precision, and thats the entire concept of the job lore wise. The entire feel of a rogue-like class is their nimble actions, which is only possibly because they don't use ridiculously oversized and heavy weapons.

    As for "Who says NINs [strike]go from 1-10[/strike] only wield daggers?", well, apart from digging around cutscenes for far to many hours knowing full well even if I found proof you wouldn't believe it or change your mind so I'm not wasting my time... the best I got is the jobs lore from release/lodestone...

    These agile fighters pride themselves on their skills with knives and daggers to make quick work of enemies.
    I see nothing in that saying "Pride themselves on wielding large bulky weapons to slow themselves down" or "Short Swords and Cutlasses" or anything of the sort. you can say something like "Long Knives", but for that sake of argument, I direct you here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife There's nothing about Knives being half the size of a human body like these weapons are. Knives and Daggers do vary in size but I've never seen a Knife half the size of an adult, at that point its a sword of some sort.

    I like variety in weapons, Hell I love the Khanjars because I've enjoyed their model since XI, but they are just a bit on the silly side. Its not like I'm demanded they be resized, but I have to acknowledge that they are huge like xbox.

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    Gods damn it, I was wondering why the Khanjars looked familiar.
    Most of the Golden Saucer glamour weapons are from XI

    The bow is "Lamian Kaman"
    the WHM Staff is the Staff wielded by certain NM Lamia in XI
    the BLM Staff is the Soulflayer staff
    the Polearm is the Mamool Ja spear (the one in Wanderer's Palace uses it too)
    the Daggers are the Jambiya we're discussing

    Blood Sword share a name and similar design to an XI weapon. I don't think the hand-2-hand has anything to do with XI, and the Shield is Odin's.
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    I see no problem here. In fact, add more short sword-esque models.

    The real problem to me is lack of proper kodachi-style weapons other than the Yoshimitsu, for that real NIN look.
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    I just want Dancer class added in game.
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    Please stop calling the Ninja relic a "katana." Japanese swords of that length and (lack of) curve are called tanto, though the "thick blade" mentioned in the relic quest would make the pair of Yoshimitsu a subtype called a yoroidooshi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Please stop calling the Ninja relic a "katana." Japanese swords of that length and (lack of) curve are called tanto, though the "thick blade" mentioned in the relic quest would make the pair of Yoshimitsu a subtype called a yoroidooshi.

    ok it's short katana.
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    people make threads about the silliest nuances.

    The funny thing is, they're always serious, heartfelt issues that are eating away at OP's mind, enough to warrant a thread and developer insults.
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