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    r300 best Chocobo builds

    Hey all, looking for some of the experienced racers to give their insight on builds that have worked for them at the r300 level with a 20/20 bird. I'm prepping my final bird and I'd like to come up with what is potentially the best ability/stat setup.

    Kaeko Leta of Excalibur posted a video of him dominating post-nerf with Head Start and Choco Dash III. From that video, I gathered that being out in front is way too powerful and so the optimal build would operate around that.

    I didn't find his build perfect. I think Cure III is superior to Dash III when used as part of this strategy. Restores more stamina and counteracts meteors more effectively.

    However, I'm most curious about the use of Head Start. Yeah, head start puts you out in front, but I'm thinking perhaps Dash III would work the same way if used at the beginning? The advantage would be that there is a stamina savings when compared to Head Start, but I have no experience with a maxed out g9 choco to be sure that it's mechanically the same.

    So can anyone give insight as to how Dash III compares with Head Start when facing NPCs with Head Start like Star Breaker?

    Outside of this particular strategy, what other builds have people found great success with?
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    Last edited by thendcomes; 04-30-2015 at 06:59 PM.

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    Head Start is subar at the moment. Yes sure, if you run a head start + choco dash III build and you start getting stamina tablets and choco cures like a pig, then it's a guaranteed win, but if that doesn't happen you are screwed.
    At the moment the most optimal and reliable builds would be (in my opinion) something along the lines:

    Increased Stamina III + Choco Cure III or Increased Stamina III + Choco Dash III or...

    Choco Ease III + Choco Cure III or even Increased Stamina III + Choco Ease III.

    All the above are far far far more reliable and safe than a Head Start + Choco Dash III combo. The problem about choco dash + head start is that you massively rely on the RNG, and while you always depend on the RNG no matter what build you run, it isn't as drastic.
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    How are your starts without Dash or Head Start? Do you require a lot of points stacked in acceleration as a result?

    The last thing I want to do is grind out the races in the middle of the pack, where you're susceptible to briars and getting items dumped on you from a lot of different racers, instead of just the 2nd place guy.
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    I can't answer that, but pretty sure a Max speed of 500 and a good Acceleration (I'd say over 400) are enough to put you out of the "lolbriar zone" reliably fast.
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    I've also heard really good things about Level Head V, to resist the VERY potent high-end frenzy attacks, which can screw your chances.

    The main issue that appears to be a bug right now with Dash III is that at r300 races, if you are already capping max speed, the ability won't go beyond 500 for max speed, so you get a net zero result.

    Which is compelling a number of breeders to discard dash III once they hit pedigree 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    I've also heard really good things about Level Head V, to resist the VERY potent high-end frenzy attacks, which can screw your chances.

    The main issue that appears to be a bug right now with Dash III is that at r300 races, if you are already capping max speed, the ability won't go beyond 500 for max speed, so you get a net zero result.

    Which is compelling a number of breeders to discard dash III once they hit pedigree 9.
    It's not entirely useless though, as your chocobo stamina stops draining for a few seconds, so it acts like a minichococure and can easily replace head start too at the beginning. I'd say the skill is fine, just not top tier at the moment (in R300, in low R brackets it's op as hell xD).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    The main issue that appears to be a bug right now with Dash III
    Nice to know the conversation we had went completely over your head. Now please keep this garbage out of the thread, it's totally off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thendcomes View Post
    Nice to know the conversation we had went completely over your head. Now please keep this garbage out of the thread, it's totally off topic.
    Keeping it classy, I see. It is still relevant to your OP theme- what builds work in rank 300, and what continues to have issues.

    Tell me, when is it ever just OK for something to be useful for one group of people, but simultaneously pathetic for another group, when other abilities continue to scale properly beyond the known caps.

    ....Unless it was your intent to hide this detail, by creating another topic which covers the same stuff... minus known issues we have identified... Though your motive for this ruse is indeed 'over my head'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thendcomes View Post
    Nice to know the conversation we had went completely over your head. Now please keep this garbage out of the thread, it's totally off topic.
    That was unnecessarily harsh. You posted a video about a guy dominating with choco dash III, Duuude007 just gave his opinion about why he thinks choco dash III is underwhelming at the moment. In any case I do agree with him about being better skills. I'd say both choco dash III and head start are not top tier anymore.
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    I don't care about his personal agenda to "fix" a "bugged" skill that's not bugged. It's totally off topic. I'm looking for best builds not discussion on what skills need improving. I don't think I'm gonna get it here though.
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