PLEASE CAP THE ZODIAC DROP RATE

[FabledFox]

I am sure you know this, but still... Every update, a previous step becomes easier. I'm sure the drop rate will go up drastically soon enough. It is without a doubt the next step after the increased Light bonus. And remember you will be rewarded with a very easy phase after that (40 minutes x 12 Mahatma).

I have done 30 Aurum Vale's for my Relic item drop. Yes, it made me go crazy at the time. It can take up to 50 minutes and you don't have all your skills yet (lvl 49 cap), making big pulls impossible. Time-wise, that's worse than 50 Haukke Manors (which usually take 15 to 20 minutes). xD My friends had Aurum Vale after approximately three times. But I know some of them got stuck in Brayflox, Copperbell or Pharos Sirius instead. I don't think anybody had a near-perfect Zodiac grind. ^^;

But it is so rewarding when you finally get that drop. People know you "worked" hard for it. It is a challenging way of getting a high-level weapon that requires dedication (while easy and good alternatives are Shiva Extreme or the IronWorks i130 weapon).

[CBF]

I am sure you know this, but still... Every update, a previous step becomes easier. I'm sure the drop rate will go up drastically soon enough.

That is all well and good, but I want my item maxed now, not later when it has another stage (or whatever). If that were the case, nobody would craft or buy the meldable items, "there will be a better item next update".

I see where everyone is coming from regarding the "best weapon" banter or whatever, but just because people have bitten the bullet and went through the absolute shit to get their weapon, doesn't make it any less of a shitty method. I get that it's an MMO and "grinding" is clearly labelled on the tin, but drop rates and luck should never be part of achieving your ultimate weapon, least of all when some people can blitz it in a day just because they're lucky, or someone will never ever get it because they're unlucky. It's just not fair for people who have to blast aurum vale for days on end.

[Ophie-Mio]

For me, I'm hoping that when 3.0 comes out that they decide that the entire relic questline needs to be cut down in half in order to ease people through it better. As it stands right now, going through all that content is just a pain. I want to start the SCH book but I can't bring myself to go through ALL those animus books. At this point, asking me to do three rounds of books depending on stat for an i100 is silly. Cut it down so that you only have to do one book per stat.

When I was working on my WHM staff, the zodiac dungeon drops killed my love of any dungeon. We got some newbies running through them and we mass pulled like we were insane. I'm sure we didn't make the dungeons fun for them and we couldn't. Both of us working on it were at times 0/30+ on some dungeons. We're not helping these players through the content the way SE intended. We're dragging them along kicking and screaming half the time because the game insists we need 4 players.

I can't stand trials anymore. The thought of light makes me sick. The RNG pain of hoping for a zodiac drop and then again as light RNG just makes me hate the game. At least the zodiac portion did it right in one way and that was so that you didn't need to stay on the required job for it to count. I couldn't imagine healing ALL those dungeons.

[Lamentations]

I am sure you know this, but still... Every update, a previous step becomes easier. I'm sure the drop rate will go up drastically soon enough. It is without a doubt the next step after the increased Light bonus. And remember you will be rewarded with a very easy phase after that (40 minutes x 12 Mahatma).

While this is all true the problem is there simply isn't enough variety of content to do in this game to keep the average player who worked hard for it to keep from slipping a clutch between the ears.

The issue isn't so much grind in general alone as it is grind focused in too narrow a perspective, options are extremely limited, they just keep rehashing old shit.

if 3.0 winds up being just more of everything we have seen so far system wise for the first time since it launched I see Xiv being in trouble.