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    Player
    Whocareswhatmynameis's Avatar
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    Fate Bringer
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Please stop using "grind" as a synonym to "RNG". Grind is completely fine, but one person finishing the grind after 1 run while another person puts in 50 times the effort and gets nothing due to RNG is not.
    Almost everyone gets a couple drops in 1-2 runs and almost everyone has a couple dungeons they have to run 20-30 times. Some cases more extreme then others but still, why cry about it? The zodiac and zeta steps combined are still easier than the not RNG nexus step. especially before they nerfed it.
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    Last edited by Whocareswhatmynameis; 05-31-2015 at 05:44 AM.

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    314159265358979323846264338327's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Amazon Dotcom
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 50
    The best weapon in the game is too hard to get
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    The best weapon in the game is too hard to get
    Or too easy to get.
    Some people can breeze through this entire Relic quest without experiencing the grinding aspect of it, while others can be stuck on a certain part of the quest because the thing they need will never drop.
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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 53
    I hit 41 with Copperbell Hard. My FC legitimately thinks I was going crazy.

    However, all dungeons added together I technically had a better drop rate than the 1/9 people believe it has. That's .11% and I have .19%. So while copperbell sucked my overall experience was above average. *Shrug*
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    There was a great sadness upon hearing they included low chance items. I think things should either be long grind, or random luck, not both. If you have to do a big quest with multiple requirements and items/currency needed, there shouldn't also be low chance RNG. I have 2 zodiac weapons myself, but I feel for people who are still struggling.
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    Jamein Lowel
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    79 dungeons overall to complete my Zeta, in the grand scheme of things for a top tier weapon I'm not going to complain too much.

    RNG is RNG, sometimes it sucks, and sometimes it gives you those 3 drops in a row and you squeal like a 5 year old girl at your good fortune before it's taken away from you and you do another 20 runs of satasha HM.
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I agree. I was pretty lucky (most mine took was WP at 16 runs, all items took 66 total) but over 50 on a single dungeon is crazy...
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    Symbiant Disciple
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by CBF View Post
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    Yup I ran Satasha hard for 20 hrs straight (as a tank) for my final piece. It almost made me quit. I understand that I did not need to run it that long and probably did more damage then good but, it was my last piece and I was being stubborn. In the end though I think the rng should be removed and replaced with a set amount of runs or what ever. For example run sastasha 5 times or what ever number you want to put in.
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    At least it was a easy dungeon. Like you I got stuck on a easier one as well. I did Lost City 45 times. It was extremely frustrating. Like I said in other threads. I don't mind grind. Tell me to go do dungeons 30 times, and I'll do it. But RNG, never knowing where I am in the process, is very discouraging. Also it isn't fair at all, that some people like many people in my FC, got all there's in 1-5 runs. When I have to sit here much much longer for the exact same reward. That makes no sense at all. If we are going to make a difficult grind for one of the best weapons, can we at least make it equal for everyone?
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    SekhmetM's Avatar
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    Sekhmet Mubarak
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    With each new step, SE seem to succeed at making the community hate certain content.

    -snip-

    That about covers everything in this game. SE have successfully made anyone doing the Relic quest line (especially the unlucky ones) loathe pretty much the entire game.
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