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    Kirisu's Avatar
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    Emelin Souledge
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    A theory on Summoning in Eorzea

    So my LS has been discussing the so called "Dark Side" Of materia which supposedly holds the potential for "Unimaginable power" on our forums. Which branched out to a discussion on Summoning as a result of Materia.

    Personally i don't think summons will be introduced as a product of materia.
    And lets not forget that the classic summons have been established in Eorzea's lore as the Primals, evil deities that will likely be the ultimate foe that we adventurers must overcome. (Until the next expansion xD )

    But that doesn't necessarily mean we can rule out the act of summoning as a whole to be introduced to the game.
    FF Tactics advance featured a summoning system where any class could summon one of the GF's/Aeons/Eidolons or whatever you prefer to call them, depending on their race.

    Now, race-based summons wouldn't really work for Eorzea, as firstly, the classic summons are exlusive to the beastman tribes, and personally i like to think that there's a lengthy ritual involved too. And the only playable race with a distinct patron deity are the Keeper, and Seeker clans of Miqo'te... The other gods patronize or matronize as the case may be with Limsa Lominsa, the city-states rather than the races...

    This brings us to my idea... Each adventurer will have one summon available to them regardless of class. Specificly, their guardian deity. Or rather, its avatar...

    So my character would be able to summon the avatar of Halone, whereas somebody else might be able to summon the avatar of Nymeia, and so on.

    So what are your thoughts? :3
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    Tezz_Xivectro's Avatar
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    Tezz Xivectro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirisu
    And lets not forget that the classic summons have been established in Eorzea's lore as the Primals, evil deities that will likely be the ultimate foe that we adventurers must overcome.
    They're eikons... GOSH tina!
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    Lilith Lufaise
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    In Final Fantasy Tactics Advance you can summon your Totema with any job and those are the Ivalice exclusive summons.
    Normal ones like Shiva and Ifrit are still exclusive to Summoner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    In Final Fantasy Tactics Advance you can summon your Totema with any job and those are the Ivalice exclusive summons.
    Normal ones like Shiva and Ifrit are still exclusive to Summoner.
    S'not what im saying... Summons like Shiva and Ifrit will not be made availble, hell im not saying Summoner as a job ever will either. I meant something more along the lines of the totema, in that an adventurer could perhaps summon an avatar of the Guardian Deity you chose during character creation...
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    I will be extremely sad if there is no dedicated SMN-esque class.

    To the point where I'd quit if they don't ever fix the Nuking class.
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    In main quest 42, ifrit sais something on "evoking your own primal", so maybe to a certain point everyone could summon something based on guardian or birthday. That don't mean there'll be no summoner btw
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    I disagree on Guardian Deities being summoned. I want them to differ between Guardian and Avatars. Since the 12 Guardian Deities are the Gods and goddesses while Avatars are like the Fake-gods.

    Here is what I want personally:

    Let people go into Guardian [Sync] Mode where their Guardian deities appear and guide them. You have to fight them in a One on One Duel in order to obtain their guidance.
    (Status plus, several advantageous effects, enhance skills and Guardian's Shadow hovering around you{1-2Hour CD}maybe?})

    While Summoner has [Summon] that lets them call Avatar and fight by their side(There's some really good suggestions in another thread!). I've been wondering about that Stone that was said to be able to control Leviathan. With Materia, Magitek, and The Stone, getting the aid of Avatars may even be possible. Basically like all other Avatars/Eikons/Aeons/GF/etc in any Final Fantasies with It's own lores
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    lol, an Avatar is usually a powerful being that represents a god or goddess, acting in their place where the Deity him/herself cannot. As deities commonly cannot or will not personally step into the mortal world.
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    i think at some point you will be able summon Avatars/Eikons/Aeons/GF/etc as i can't see a ff game without us using them.
    id like to have a one on battle with them to unlock them like ffxi but with a twist as in even after you beat them u have to do a extra quest or something to get a certain item to use them. of course some will find this pointless if it take 20-30 mins to kick there ass, but it needs to have more of a challenge then just to beat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirisu View Post
    lol, an Avatar is usually a powerful being that represents a god or goddess, acting in their place where the Deity him/herself cannot. As deities commonly cannot or will not personally step into the mortal world.
    not in XIV :P The 12 Guardian Deities were Gods/Goddesses that watched over Hydaelyn as said in the description and The 12 actually comes down to the Planet, as said Halone/Rhalgr(not sure which) went down in the form of a Roegadyn. That the coming of them may either mean Destruction or Salvation.

    It is also said that the Avatars, although worshipped by the Beastmens as god, aren't really god. They're actually some kind of being ?????? I forgot lol<< was somewhere I forgot.

    But I think It's pretty cool If The Guardian, The Dragons, and The Primals are somehow connected! We need more lores! more lores!!
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    Last edited by Anima; 08-28-2011 at 12:21 AM.

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