Thread: 1.19 powerlevel guide

Sounds the same as how I remember the system in WoW to be but still, lets try the system before we claim its broken, shall we.

There are ways this kind of exploit can be avoided. For example, the exp a mob gives is based on the highest level character to attack the mob (similar to FFXI if they were inside the party, not sure if FFXIV is the same). Then, in this case, since the high level character will have such a large difference in level with the mob the parties exp will be low to non-existent.

Originally Posted by Kafeen

Sounds the same as how I remember the system in WoW to be but still, lets try the system before we claim its broken, shall we.

There are ways this kind of exploit can be avoided. For example, the exp a mob gives is based on the highest level character to attack the mob (similar to FFXI if they were inside the party, not sure if FFXIV is the same). Then, in this case, since the high level character will have such a large difference in level with the mob the parties exp will be low to non-existent.

Not sure how it is now, but a few months ago, if there was a high level in your party, you got crap sp, and they get slightly higher sp. And then it was changed so the lower level gets more sp, and the higher level gets almost no sp. Not sure which came first. They keep switching things around, it's like they don't have testers with opinions, and prefer to use player outrage to get a good grasp on things.

I wouldn't mind this new claiming system in the case of things such as besieged in ffxi, but not in a party situation where you wanna do your own thing with your own group and do not want anybody interfering. If I wanted help in killing something, I can use "call for help" option and get no xp.

with reinforcements and exp chains, I can see how normal experiencing can be better than PLing. This would be especially true if chains can be broken by interrupting high level chars.

For example, if you have a full party of 30s killing 40s raptors, those raptors are less likely to call in as many reinforcements and the exp chains will be maintained by the speed of the kills. On the other hand, if you have a PL r50 trying to change that up, the raptors will be calling in all nearby mobs to gang shank the PL on top of the fact that r50 is higher than r40s, thus making a chain impossible.

Boom, counter PL system already stated in the release notes. Conversation over.

Originally Posted by MrKupo

with reinforcements and exp chains, I can see how normal experiencing can be better than PLing. This would be especially true if chains can be broken by interrupting high level chars.

For example, if you have a full party of 30s killing 40s raptors, those raptors are less likely to call in as many reinforcements and the exp chains will be maintained by the speed of the kills. On the other hand, if you have a PL r50 trying to change that up, the raptors will be calling in all nearby mobs to gang shank the PL on top of the fact that r50 is higher than r40s, thus making a chain impossible.

Boom, counter PL system already stated in the release notes. Conversation over.

Link system only works if there are nearby mobs. With higher level players helping an already speedy party doing chains, chances are areas would be very empty. Also keep in mind player mindset of sticking to only one area for leveling. Just like you only mention raptor parties, how many parties do you think that little area can support?

Originally Posted by Dyne

Link system only works if there are nearby mobs. With higher level players helping an already speedy party doing chains, chances are areas would be very empty. Also keep in mind player mindset of sticking to only one area for leveling. Just like you only mention raptor parties, how many parties do you think that little area can support?

As i said, if a high level player is helping, no experience chain. And it's not like a full party can kill a mob much slower than a PL. And the reinforcement system is different from a normal linking system in that it is based of the strength of the players attacking the mob. If there was a PL in the raptor area, that raptor would call all nearby raptors, and as you said it is a small area. Not only will the PL pull in a full gang of mobs, there will be no experience chain.
Compare this to playing as we do now at the raptor camp. Fast kills one by one. The result in the new system is an increased rate in exp. You kill the mobs just fast enough to beat the respawn time, just as a PL would. The difference, more exp.

PL would kill exp chain. that's basically my whole argument. If you have one player who has a level above the mob, the chain is broken. of course this is my assumption. The notes say that mobs chain when equal to or higher than the level of the attacking party, but does that mean average, highest individual level, or something else.

Sorry, but this game has a history of ruining things. They will change it into something that causes such outrage, then ultimately scrap it and say, "Let's just bring back something from ffxi" a couple months later.

All you need to do to stop the OP's exploit is to award SP to the valid party as a percentage of damage done to the mob in question.

Edit: Although, it would open up griefing opportunities for people to deny EXP to other parties by hitting their mobs on purpose.