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  1. #11
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    Gunspec's Avatar
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    It was pretty obvious from the beginning that this would be a thing. FCs would use a combination of alts to boost 15 characters into high ranks with 14/15 matches completed, then one character beats all 15 in a row giving him one of the highest scores possible. Maybe SE doesn't care, or maybe they are REALLY bad at predicting player abusive behavior. It was the same thing when the ready check system could be spammed constantly in mid-combat, with the pop-up interrupting targeting and actions. MMOs need to hire a negative thinker to figure out how new features will be abused, so they can plan around it before the content is released.
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  2. #12
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Though it would suck for SE, sounds like tourney should be a developer, community manager, or gm run event on each server.
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  3. #13
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Win trading is a player thing. It's not SE's fault that people trade things so that everyone they participate with can have a chance at whatever prize is being offered. If SE did manage to figure out some way to prevent win trading from happening, it would have to effect even the player vs player matches...

    And here's a note, I trade wins with friends because a group of us don't like TT. We still want points for Gold Saucer and TT is just another way to do it. So we trade the wins and get what we need from it.

    In the tournament, if there's a way that people can profit from it, it will be found. Some people want the gameplay element of the tournament like OP and others just want the goods.
    Making an easily exploitable system is SE's fault, yes. Saying it's a "player thing", suggesting that if not for those awful, awful players we wouldn't have this situation is ABSURD. As a developer of an MMO, SE should have more sense than to make things that are easily cheated. You don't make tournaments in the real world where people pick who they play against. It's stupid. The flaws are numerous and obvious.

    If you want, go build a society on the "honor system" and let me know how it works out. Be sure to blame the people and not the system when it fails horrifically.
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  4. #14
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Mateus
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    ┐( ̄ヘ ̄)┌ ´("I don't know what to say.")
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  5. #15
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    Yoongi Mio
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    If you want, go build a society on the "honor system" and let me know how it works out. Be sure to blame the people and not the system when it fails horrifically.
    If you'll remember, they also didn't want the eternity bands being sold player to player and put people on an honor system and people still sold them. I stand by what I say, if someone can profit, someone will do so. SE should have built around that aspect.
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  6. #16
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    Blaise Destin
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    They could make it to where you can only battle the same player once per tournament, forcing you to, at the very least, find 15 different sellers if you're looking to buy your way to victory... which would be much harder than just having 1-2 people do it for you.

    That or find a way to randomize matches by making it perhaps a queue system like Roulette.
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  7. #17
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    Mook Mook
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    Excalibur
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    Easy fix is make it a duty finder cant back out once a match is found. Its a tournament not something you can just back out of. So people have to que up fight random opponents and this like duty finder should be across servers. Its a novel idea what SE did but ultimately i predicted this before it even happened.
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  8. #18
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    Raih'a Dakwil
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    What I first thought the TRIPLE TRIAD TOURNAMENT will look like:



    The current tournament is a completely joke.
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  9. #19
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseArath View Post
    They could make it to where you can only battle the same player once per tournament, forcing you to, at the very least, find 15 different sellers if you're looking to buy your way to victory... which would be much harder than just having 1-2 people do it for you.

    That or find a way to randomize matches by making it perhaps a queue system like Roulette.
    That would not change a thing, as the exploit revolves around fighting 15 different people, not 1 person 15 times.
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  10. #20
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    Yumi Umi
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    And this is why we can't have nice things.
    GS didn't even hit the one month mark and its already being tainted with bs again. Can there be at least one piece of new non raiding here to stay content that won't be exploited on the 2nd week of release?
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