Dear Yoshi & Team: About Current TT Tournament Model

[Snugglebutt]

Very simple solution...

1. Make each win give the same points no matter who play against.

2. Change from top 3 spots earning card into earn x amount of points or x amount of wins per tournament to get guaranteed card and x amount to get platinum pack. They are adding such a system partially with this earn a score to earn platinum pack and they could extend that so have to earn x amount of wins or x amount of score to guarantee the card too. The amount needed can be adjusted as time goes on and SE gains data pertaining to how high average scores and such are.

3 (optional). Make match ups random which will reduce the amount of people able to cheat. I think this is kind of important in general even if just doing 1 and 2 would remove the biggest problem with this tournament which is cheaters are stopping legitimate players from guaranteed winning the card. If they never even did number 3 in this list, 1 and 2 would mean legitimate players would win if they are good enough to beat the really high score/wins SE puts in place instead of being excluded from it by cheaters.

Currently the system is an exclusionary system but while that in itself is not bad for tournaments since not everyone should get the top prize without effort but the way they have done it is bad. It should be exclusionary not based on ranks with people who cheat their way to the top being the method of that exclusion, pushing legitimate players out of the top ranks no matter how good at TT the others may be (which is how current system works)...instead it should be exclusion from the top prize based on who is good enough to get a high enough score/amount of wins. SE set that score and amount of wins like they plan to do with the platinum card pack. Even if they just did 1 and 2 from above it would be a vastly better system than currently have.

I would also increase the amount of matches per tournament too personally as 15/20 matches in a week/two weeks is too low so I would make it around 30 matches per tournament and would make it two tournaments a week. If SE does 1 and 2 from my list, everyone would be happy while not leading to any impact on SE's duty finder excuse...doing 3 as well would just make people who play legitimately happier because cheaters would be restricted/limited in their cheating but would impose on/impact SE's duty finder excuse.


TL/DR Version

The results of SE's current plans...

Cheaters guaranteed the card from top 3 ranks.
Best and good legitimate players will only have chance at winning the card from the lottery style (RNG) platinum pack.

If SE does what I suggested above in both (1) and (2)...

Cheaters will still be guaranteed the card.
Best legitimate players guaranteed card.
Good legitimate players will only have chance at winning the card from the lottery style (RNG) platinum pack.

If SE does all three of my suggestions...

Cheaters will find it vastly harder to obtain the card.
Best legitimate players guaranteed card.
Good legitimate players will only have chance at winning the card from the lottery style (RNG) platinum pack.

[Curatio_Magus]

I'm only here because I mis-clicked this thread in my toolbar, trying to delete it, but accidentally clicked it.

To my surprise, there is still the exact same issue with this tournament. I'm only here to say one thing:

Triple Triad was the main reason I came back into the game, one month early actually, to acclimatize myself to the new content so I would be ready to keep playing and start collecting when the Gold Saucer was released. I wanted to say that I did NOT continue my subscription this month because of how the tournament was botched. I had a feeling Square was going to continue to allow the game, tournament structure, and prizing to be poisoned after handing top cards to cheaters.

I am, not glad to see, that I was 100% correct. My apologies to those who kept with it, and to Square, I am by far not the only customer you have lost, and will lose, due to this issue. Congrats...?

[Kalandros]

Any change will be done over the course of months, because it is far from a priority issue for them.
Anyway, this is just like how hardcore raiders parse and math it up for the best results, but this time its for a mini game thats much less complicated than end game raiding mechanics and dps checks~

[ServerCollaps]

I am, not glad to see, that I was 100% correct. My apologies to those who kept with it, and to Square, I am by far not the only customer you have lost, and will lose, due to this issue. Congrats...?

maybe you should read the official statemants before ranting without a (good) reason

oh well, cu back soon

[AryaSpark]

maybe you should read the official statemants before ranting without a (good) reason

oh well, cu back soon

(S)he still has very good reason to rant about this. Their official reply is more insulting than their initial mega-flub of the tourney. "We know ppl are rigging the tourney like crazy, but we are keeping the structure the same for a month b/c we don't want to disappoint those who are hoping to win a card by rigging the game like crazy." Like really? Reeeeeeally???

[Nekohakase]

Currently on Gilgamesh server:
Thats over 140 pts per win, I've only gotten 134 pts at most..
How do I get that many points per win?

A small group of lvl 15 alts (controlled by a smaller group of players in collusion with the aim of topping the charts) are used to prop up the latter's scores in the tournament by exchanging wins amongst themselves and increasing each alts' value.

While it is possible to topple some 70+ card giant with the 5 starters, the chances of it happening are unlikely compared to someone who has had a bit more triple triad experience and obtained 25 or so cards.

Do not exclude ALL 1 star deck holders, but have criteria that weights players depending on how many cards they own. Those below a threshold should be worth far less.

This should prove to be a hurdle for "virgin" win-farms, and places severe restrictions on lvl 15 alts, given that their ease and range of travel would not be as great as a formal player's.

[EZ5902]

"/shout Anyone with enough points for their Platinium pack with a few games left? I need a few wins to get mine."
This will be a thing.

Yup, this is why tournament pvp battles should just be removed, then possibly add more tournament NPCs.

[Snugglebutt]

A small group of lvl 15 alts (controlled by a smaller group of players in collusion with the aim of topping the charts) are used to prop up the latter's scores in the tournament by exchanging wins amongst themselves and increasing each alts' value.

Like this for example. Someone can make level 15 alts, rank them up through NPC matches and then sell remaining wins for gil. At this stage the entire tournament system is so broken it is practically a waste of time trying. SE are so clueless about how broken and open to abuse their own system is that it rubs salt in the wound of anyone who wants to compete fairly.

[Kalandros]

I've made 4647 pts myselft. They changed a few things, there's a simple trick to it. Took me a few wins to figure it out then I got the most out of it minus the tests. 4800 is possible I think. But I don't think any more than that is possible right now without extreme preparation

[Chek]

Why does the NPC still say the top 3 get the Firion card?

edit: So, wait, top 3 spots STILL automatically get the card and only 4th-11th spots get the platinum card? Everyone else gets jack squat?

Awesome. Nothing was fixed. Guess I'll start buying my wins or farming friends if I want to get the last few cards I need.