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    I know of people on my server who have been offering large sums of gil to higher ranking members to pay-to-win their way into the top 3 ranks... so rather than be fair, its just a "who has millions of gil to sink into getting a card before anyone else".... those same people also have a reputation of not wanting to let anyone else have nice stuff (will ALWAYS pull asap even on S ranks just so others cant have a chance to participate)... so I just know they will continue to troll this model also.

    Also.. for those who participated in the first couple hours, they will always get screwed over because the moment they win against someone else they get penalised for being higher rank when they play their next match....

    PLEASE FIX
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    Jet'a Vahn
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    This might be too extremist of a solution, but perhaps they could make it so that only people with over 60 cards can sign up to the tournament. 60 cards are difficult enough to get that those who don't care for TT won't go through the hassle to get them all to then make win-whoring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    This might be too extremist of a solution, but perhaps they could make it so that only people with over 60 cards can sign up to the tournament. 60 cards are difficult enough to get that those who don't care for TT won't go through the hassle to get them all to then make win-whoring.
    yea, thatd work this week. but what about the next tournament? even ppl who dont care much about TT are still trying to get cards, casually. if they are lucky, they will have 60 cards before someone with bad luck who is grinding his ass off. not to mention, this wont stop people in big fcs or friends who trade off each tourny. like one week, guy A wins and guy B gives throws the matches to him. the next tourny, guy B wins and guy A throws them all.

    the solution is that the structure of TT tournaments need an overhaul, and involves not being able to pick your opponent. Even randomly matching on the server will be problematic, as the guy can just send his opp a tell and bribe him. this needs to be cross server imo, or just strictly npc, but make the npcs use various rules and you must pick your deck before knowing them. this will be very luck based, which sucks, but its better than people abusing the system

    TT is great for the most part, but I dont think a lot of thought went into the tournament and it didnt need to be implemented just yet. I would probably be online right now trying to get closer to 80 cards, but now I feel like theres no point. Totally lost motivation bc the end game of TT for me is a tournament. The only thing keeping my sub active is my static and raiding with them a couple hours a week, but with some of the new big titles releasing soon, its really going to be hard for me to justify playing now that I basically have no interest in TT at the moment
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    Last edited by Kimura410; 03-04-2015 at 10:51 PM.

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    Poki Rabntah
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    They should at least think about making the tournament cross server including all the Japanese datacenters.
    e.g. Player A enters the tournament gets a match with a random player from another server, or they could do it via server clusters. They could even go as far a keeping opposing players identities anon to protect the integrity of the tournament.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Whilst I'm loving Triple Triad I have to chime in and admit how disheartening it was to see the tournament rankings yesterday and realize that it's basically impossible to win without paying players to deliberately lose to you. How the developers thought this was a good design I have no idea... First rule of MMO development is that if it CAN be abused it WILL be abused.

    They must have seen that players could easily fix matches so why the hell didn't they put some counter measures in place?
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    I hope they listen to us ._.; I don't know if Japanese forums are talking about this, too. I hope so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    I'm going to put it bluntly before I go into details: It's a broke system...

    5. This one is uncertain until you guys come forward about whether Lightning is exclusive to tournament. Awarding an award that actually affects gameplay is flawed. There's a reason why every 'good' card game under the sun only awards special unique artwork of an already existing card to the winner, or winner creates a card, but card will still be available to all players. Winnings are always a currency amount, and/or card vanity. No affect on gameplay whatsoever. By having even just 1 card with exclusive gameplay affect that can only be obtained by getting top spots in tournament, you are essentially tipping the playing field in the winner's favor and causing an unbalance by making the playing field slightly uneven, as the winners now have a permanent advantage by having access to all the same cards everyone else does, plus the tournament prize card. This wouldn't be an issue if it was just artwork or something. This means the winners will always have more options now for deck customization and possible strategies. And releasing the card as an award in more than 1 tournament does not fix the issue, as it still requires winning top spots to get.
    Totally agree. Great post.

    I like the idea a few people suggested already about this as well:

    * Give the Lightning Card to everyone who participates in the Tournament.
    (OR, make it an Achievement Reward, like "Participate in X# of Tournament Matches" etc.)

    * Give Nice / Big MGP Rewards Instead for the Tournament's Top 3 Winners (or some Vanity / Artwork, etc.).

    Otherwise, players will always find ways to cheat the system (or Buy / Sell their way to Victory) for the chance at the Lightning Card.

    And it unbalances the deck for 99% of the playerbase if you leave it as only the Top Winner gets an exclusive Card.
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    Samira Starlightzz
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    Just wanted to chime in that I have been reading peoples' thoughts and solutions. Been keeping my eye on this, and hoping for an official response sometimes in the near future.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    I hope they listen to us ._.; I don't know if Japanese forums are talking about this, too. I hope so.
    I'm certain it has to of been mentioned there as well. Yesterday someone left a comment on a thread here in the English forum mentioning it has been brought up on the France forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Totally agree. Great post.

    I like the idea a few people suggested already about this as well:

    * Give the Lightning Card to everyone who participates in the Tournament.
    (OR, make it an Achievement Reward, like "Participate in X# of Tournament Matches" etc.)

    * Give Nice / Big MGP Rewards Instead for the Tournament's Top 3 Winners (or some Vanity / Artwork, etc.).

    Otherwise, players will always find ways to cheat the system (or Buy / Sell their way to Victory) for the chance at the Lightning Card.

    And it unbalances the deck for 99% of the playerbase if you leave it as only the Top Winner gets an exclusive Card.
    Yes, all of those are great ideas, especially the artwork and MGP payout. I do understand that SE cannot make new artwork weekly to provide new art every week. The solution is to make tournaments less frequent, or have the same winning card in cycle for a while before introducing a new card, like what Wizards of the Coast does for Friday Night Magic in Magic: The Gathering. People still played even if they already won the tournament the week before and got the card. Plus we would get MGP in TT tourny.
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    Last edited by h0tNstilettos; 03-05-2015 at 03:41 AM.

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    Community Rep Grekumah's Avatar
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    Greetings,

    We've been reading over all your feedback regarding Triple Triad tournaments and sharing all of it with the development team. They would like to look into adjusting future Triple Triad tournament rules based on suggestions and feedback.
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    Colby "Grekumah" Casaccia - Community Team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    We've been reading over all your feedback regarding Triple Triad tournaments and sharing all of it with the development team. They would like to look into adjusting future Triple Triad tournament rules based on suggestions and feedback.
    Excellent! Any clue as to when we will start to see this transition?
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