Dear Yoshi & Team: About Current TT Tournament Model

[Pterois]

So, in short terms, people now have even more reasons to cheat in order to get, at least, the Platinium Pack and the MGP bonus.
"You gotta secure these tournament victories to have your pack yo'!"

Also, Tournament 5* cards are still rewarded to cheaters only and it will remain that way until Heavensward comes out (maybe even 3.1).

Great.

who cares what cheaters do with there stuff... they will throw away the achievement just as fast as they got it because they didn't put ACTUAL work into it. you know the same as someone who actually achieved top tier PVP level and get that armor, they will wear it for months before replacing... but someone who win trades in a day will glamor over it in a week. All of this does not lessen what you have accomplished.

[Garlyle]

Thank you, Yoshi!

So, in short terms, people now have even more reasons to cheat in order to get, at least, the Platinium Pack and the MGP bonus.
"You gotta secure these tournament victories to have your pack yo'!"

Also, Tournament 5* cards are still rewarded to cheaters only and it will remain that way until Heavensward comes out (maybe even 3.1).

Great.

Review the post.

I don't doubt there will be some win selling for "hit your minimum points for the rewards", but to be honest depending on how they tune that value, the objective is to get it so that you can win legitimately. Right now the only realistic option to win anything is to exploit the system, and there's no incentive to actually participate normally. If people can realistically win something, the necessity for exploitation is reduced.

Also the Platinum pack is likely going to reward the 5* victor cards (rarely). Even if not outright 100% confirmed it seems reasonable that this is what Yoshida is referring to as the contents of that pack.

[Anesjka]

Make it so you have to challenge 15 different npc's or players.... You cannot play a tournament match against a specific opponent more than once....


solved.


あなたは15種類のNPCのか、選手に挑戦する持っているので、あなたが何度も特定の相手とトーナメントの試合を再生することはできません....それを作る....

[CompSci88]

Make it so you have to challenge 15 different npc's or players.... You cannot play a tournament match against a specific opponent more than once....


solved.


あなたは15種類のNPCのか、選手に挑戦する持っているので、あなたが何度も特定の相手とトーナメントの試合を再生することはできません....それを作る....

You really don't know how the current tournament work, do you?

[KariArisu]

Make it so you have to challenge 15 different npc's or players.... You cannot play a tournament match against a specific opponent more than once....


solved.


あなたは15種類のNPCのか、選手に挑戦する持っているので、あなたが何度も特定の相手とトーナメントの試合を再生することはできません....それを作る....

How does that solve the people who are getting 15 people to throw wins at them for max points?

[Fyce]

I don't doubt there will be some win selling for "hit your minimum points for the rewards", but to be honest depending on how they tune that value, the objective is to get it so that you can win legitimately. Right now the only realistic option to win is to exploit the system, and there's no incentive to actually participate normally. If people can win normally, guess who stops cheating?

Not everyone was cheating. In fact, only the people trying to get to the 1 to 10 place had an incentive to cheat their way up.
Now, everyone will need to "secure" some victory points to get at least the Platinium pack, and some bonus MGP.

We don't know how many point will be needed to get a Platinium pack. But since you need a certain number of points, you can't just go full on random mode and take the risk to lose too many games.

Even if you don't want to cheat, if you start losing some games, you'll say to yourself "damn, if I don't secure some wins, I won't have my Platinium pack this week", and you'll probably want to get a few wintrades with someone in the same situation, even if you didn't want to cheat in the first place.

So, yes, I do agree that there will be a new incentive to play legit'. But people will also want to secure their Platinium pack, and they'll do that with easy win-trading (or win-selling).

"/shout Anyone with enough points for their Platinium pack with a few games left? I need a few wins to get mine."
This will be a thing.

Also the Platinum pack is likely going to reward the 5* victor cards rarely.

There is no confirmation that these packs will contain a Tournament cards, such as Lighning or Cecil. Yoshida just said "rare cards".

[Garlyle]

Oh, it's not ideal, and like I said it'll still happen, and they're aware it'll still happen. But this is still a drastic improvement over "exploit the system or go home".

There is no confirmation that these packs will contain a Tournament card, such as Lighning or Cecil. Yoshida just said "rare cards".

To pull this part specifically, his wording is

By offering a means to earn rare cards other than placing in the higher ranks, we hope to encourage more players to take part in Triple Triad tournaments.

You can already earn rare cards through other means that high placements in tournaments. What cards, however, are currently purely locked to lead placements in tournaments? Exactly. It's entirely possible that it'll be a different set of cards specific to the Platinum Packs or something, but I feel it's a reasonable bet.

[Fyce]

Oh, it's not ideal, and like I said it'll still happen, and they're aware it'll still happen. But this is still a drastic improvement over "exploit the system or go home".

My point is that it will bring casual cheating to the "tournament". Currently, it's either "cheat very hard or just get 1k MPG", you are right.
But with these new things, it's now "cheat very hard or cheat a bit to secure your pack".

To pull this part specifically, his wording is

You can already earn rare cards through other means that high placements in tournaments. What cards, however, are currently purely locked to lead placements in tournaments? Exactly. It's entirely possible that it'll be a different set of cards specific to the Platinum Packs or something, but I feel it's a reasonable bet.

I didn't read it like that at first glance, you are probably right. Tournament cards will probably be available in Platinium packs.

So... if that's true, people will definitly want to secure their Platinium pack by win-trading, at least to have enough points to get it.

[Saiyakupo]

.>The rare cards will be obtainable through the platinum packs instead of strictly through placing the highest.
THANK YOOOUUU. I can maybe actually GET the cards now QwQ I'm so glad! Thank you for this answer!

[ZellosWilder]

Duty Finder does not support one-on-one matching

You do not need to do one-on-one in duty finder if you setup a mini bracket tournament system you can have like 64 players join duty finder from several servers then randomly pair each player with another in small blocked off rooms which unlock once the match is over the player who wins can advance to the next room to face the next player which continues until everyone is knocked out leaving only 1 player who wins that mini tournament, points are scored depending on which place you finished

Example: 64 player mini tournament:

1st 20pts (won 6 lost 0)
2nd 15pts (won 5 lost 1)
3rd-4th 10pts (won 4 lost 1)
5th-8th 7pts (won 3 lost 1)
9th-16th 5pts (won 2 lost 1)
17th-32rd 3pt (won 1 lost 1)
33rd-64th 1pt (won 0 lost 1)

You play in several of these during the week to accumulate your overall score on the leaderboard this avoids the one-on-one duty finder problem.