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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    I never said it was against TOS in the first place, however, your claim that it isn't when put up against a claim that it isn't yet, but might be made against TOS by someone else who references a mod clearly with name and post, means your evidence in comparison is lacking in strength.
    You keep spinning that however you please. I reported my friend all throughout January and February. Bayohne's post is from December, what, 11th? 10th? He also never said ISN'T YET. He said it ISN'T AGAINST THE TOS. Nowhere after TOS was the word "yet" used. I keep being told it isn't against their Policy or TOS, and I posted proof of that. The person I reported is my friend doing it. I am sure I would know if it were a bannable offense, because he'd have been long gone by now with the amount he's sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    You keep spinning that however you please. I reported my friend all throughout January and February. Bayohne's post is from December, what, 11th? 10th? He also never said ISN'T YET. He said it ISN'T AGAINST THE TOS. Nowhere after TOS was the word "yet" used. I keep being told it isn't against their Policy or TOS, and I posted proof of that. The person I reported is my friend doing it. I am sure I would know if it were a bannable offense, because he'd have been long gone by now with the amount he's sold.
    I was referring to the dev post, which Prey clearly referred to as their proof, where a dev also said it isn't against the TOS, however, they don't want the items to be used in this way, and should it continue, they may just recall the item, change it, so that such actions can't happen period. I'd consider that being either a yet or a notice that if it doesn't stop, they will fix it so that it does. Either way, it's obvious that they don't want it to keep happening. Not that it matters frankly, as the item is "extra" and this whole conversation was originally about PLEX or items of importance, like time scrolls. Further, again, the authenticity of your evidence is lacking, as verifying it at all is impossible. So saying that they might make the trade of cash shop items for gil against TOS isn't proved wrong. Though, I doubt they would do that, and instead, I believe they will just learn from the experience of this and make future items unable to be traded or sold at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
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    Lolno. What Prey clearly did was highlight what he/she/it wanted, and used that as a basis for their argument. Bayohne said it isn't against the TOS as of December, Prey didn't highlight that. I have support telling me the same thing as of February. The only difference now is that I was not told people should quit doing it. You people are all gullible if you really believe what people post and say for the public to see, as if there is no such thing as an agenda or quota to fill behind closed doors.

    Edit: My point should actually be, that don't for a second believe your needs and wants outweigh the financial needs and wants of a company/corporation. Last I checked, there were 3 people at the helm of SE, and Naoki Yoshida isn't one of them. Don't for a second think that SE/Sony/Stock/Shareholders will give up all that is to be made out there, for the sake of a few hundred people tops whining that it ruins their experience in this game.
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    PSLS: Have you taken, or are you going to take any steps to respond to some of the upcoming changes in the MMO market, such as with Elder Scrolls Online, which is now coming to consoles and moving to a free-to-play model?


    "NY: No, we do not feel that we are being influenced by that kind of model shift. Especially with an MMORPG, it is a kind of a game as a service, where we are kind of almost in the service industry.

    Say you are in the restaurant business and you own a steakhouse, and you see another competitive steakhouse that a popular feature or some other element that draws people in, of course you would have to look at what they are doing and they are keeping their quality of meats, and what they do in terms of service. In that same respect, we do look at the other MMO titles that are out there and do some research on what they do and have, Elder Scrolls Online included. But, for FFXIV and the players that belong to the world of Eorzea, we feel that we don’t need to put things in that are not necessary for that game.

    So, just because ESO moved into a free-to-play subscription model, it doesn’t necessarily mean for us to move into that direction as well. Also, for use we have taken player surveys and took a look at what our customer satisfaction level is and we actually garnered data that shows that over 80% of our players are satisfied with the subscription model and they feel very assured that it is a constant. You are safe to be in that environment, and you know that you can expect a decent amount of updates and content. So, we don’t believe that FFXIV needs to shift in that direction and not everything that other competitors or titles do will necessarily apply to our title."
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