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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by QiLymePye View Post
    Fyce....let me ask you this. Are you saying that its ok to have inequality in players in the amount of time each player can put into the game but its not ok to have inequality in the amount of money person has? So if you have more RL time to play game than someone else, its ok, but if you have more RL money than someone else then that inequality is frowned upon?
    Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
    Achieving something in the game will take a set amount of hours (on average, minus RNG). No matter how much available time a player has in his hands to spend playing the game compared to another, these two players will have to play the game the same amount of hours to do something.
    Besides, the amount of time you have to dedicate to the game is more often that not a choice of life. If you choose to play more or less, it's you own choice, and the outcome it not decided by the game itself.

    On the other hand, when you can buy some ingame currency with real money, you are skipping some steps to progress in the game. The amount of hours to play the game in order to achieve something with gils involved is broken with that system. This system will create an inequality within the game itself, which is not the case when two people have a different amount of time to play.

    Another thing, you are just comparing two people, one with a lot of time, the other with a lot of money.
    The world is not black and white. You'll have people with a lot of time and a lot of money, as well as people without unable to buy some gils and with little time on their hands. A PLEX system would further increase inequalities between these two kinds of players.

    In FFXIV, being able to buy gils with real money will completly break some part of the progression system and the supply chain. It will create even more inequalities.
    Yes, it will allow some people to play without having to pay for their subs (which include bots)... but the final outcome is way worse for everyone than this little benefit.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 03-08-2015 at 01:30 AM.

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    Player Intaki's Avatar
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    It is not unfair that someone has more time to play games than someone else. It's called life.

    I don't understand why people can't grasp this.
    This argument works equally well for buying gil, just sayin'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Thirdly the RMT will control around 90% to 95%% of the PLEX system
    [Citation Needed]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    exploiting a small percentage of the playerbase so the overwhelming majority of moochers get to play for free.
    Who is being exploited in this scenario? The people who want gil that get gil or the people who want free play time who get free play time?
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    Last edited by Intaki; 03-08-2015 at 12:03 PM.

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    Goji Degotye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    FFXIV is designed, balanced and paced around the concept of "required time played in-game to achieve a given goal". It is not designed around "how much a player is willing or able to spend".
    Not since the cash shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Not since the cash shop.
    Cash shop is purely vanity gear, you do not require those items to play the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Cash shop is purely vanity gear, you do not require those items to play the game.
    If my goal is to achieve that vanity gear then yes, I have pay. You can also shorten the time it requires you to get other achievements through the cash shop by purchasing 2 extra retainers, or make gil by selling wedding packages/dye gear for people.

    FFXIV is already being designed with "how much a player is willing or able to spend" in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    If my goal is to achieve that vanity gear then yes, I have pay. You can also shorten the time it requires you to get other achievements through the cash shop by purchasing 2 extra retainers, or make gil by selling wedding packages/dye gear for people.

    FFXIV is already being designed with "how much a player is willing or able to spend" in mind.
    Pretty sure they said selling the wedding items was against the ToS. And you holding it against a company for vanity gear? Would you rather they didn't add new content due to lack of funding?
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  8. 03-08-2015 10:28 PM