It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[Aldora]

No, it's called being pragmatic.

The fact that it will hurt RMT is even more awesome.

Feel free to be principled in your fantasyland, we here in the real world want solutions. PLEX is the lesser of 2 evils. The less money in the hands of those bastard RMTs, the better.

But it’s still “Evil” nonetheless. If you want to battle RMT, you will not be doing so by “legalizing” it. It’s because of people that are buying gil that the whole RMT business exists in the first place.

By adding a “PLEX”-system, you are basically “giving up” the fight and “joining them”. At that point the RMT business has won the battle.

[tocsin]

At that point the RMT business has won the battle.

Honestly, what battle do you think the RMT is fighting? they fight to make money to profit ourselves. if SE takes up a PLEX system, then WE win, because that money will be going towards SE, to make the game better.

I have always been in support of a PLEX system, and will continue to be so. Pay to win may not be a 100% win, but if they win, and I win too (by getting a better game) im okay with that. Their winning doesn't affect me, but PLEX makes ME win, whether I buy it or not.

[Bishop81]

But it’s still “Evil” nonetheless. If you want to battle RMT, you will not be doing so by “legalizing” it. It’s because of people that are buying gil that the whole RMT business exists in the first place.

By adding a “PLEX”-system, you are basically “giving up” the fight and “joining them”. At that point the RMT business has won the battle.

I don't see the world in such black and white terms as "evil" and "good".

I pick the solution that provide the best possible outcome.

Anything that screws over the spamming RMT, reducing my spam, is positive from my point of view.

People are going to buy gil whether you or SE want them to or not - how else did you think those RMT companies survive for so long. This is a fact that you must accept. This is reality.

[Aldora]

Honestly, what battle do you think the RMT is fighting? they fight to make money to profit ourselves. if SE takes up a PLEX system, then WE win, because that money will be going towards SE, to make the game better.

I have always been in support of a PLEX system, and will continue to be so. Pay to win may not be a 100% win, but if they win, and I win too (by getting a better game) im okay with that. Their winning doesn't affect me, but PLEX makes ME win, whether I buy it or not.

One word? “Influence”.

No. “We” can only win if game time is not purchasable through in-game currency. “We” can only win by not buying gil from RMT with real money.

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again:

But, make no mistake. I’m all for the opportunity to gift game time to friends or family, but not like this. If you want to gift game time, either buy a game time card for them, or have the ability to purchase game time through the Mog station, which then can be sent directly to the SE account of person you want it to be sent. The person would then receive either a real life e-mail saying that their game time has been extended for the amount which has been paid for, or the person would receive an untradeable and unsellable item in the Moogle Mail box which will extend their game time upon use.

I don't see the world in such black and white terms as "evil" and "good".

I pick the solution that provide the best possible outcome.

Anything that screws over the spamming RMT, reducing my spam, is positive from my point of view.

People are going to buy gil whether you or SE want them to or not - how else did you think those RMT companies survive for so long. This is a fact that you must accept. This is reality.

By introducing a “grey” solution like “PLEX” you are only introducing more means for illicit activities like RMT to flourish by not just expanding our horizon, but theirs as well. Creating more loop-holes to be abused by others. And i’m not just talking about RMT either. Ow, and believe me… If people get the chance (RMT or no), people will abuse systems like “PLEX”.

And trust me, i know fully well that RMT will never go away. As long as there are people buying in-game currency with real money, there will always be RMT around the corner who will make full use of that opportunity. But, “legalizing” it is not the way to go.

RMT is a bannable offence and thus has to be punished. You buy gil? You suffer the consequence. Period.

The only wish i have is that SE hunts them down faster. Have a GM stand in each zone of the game and the second they see an RMT shout or receives one through tell, let the ban hammer fly. They can even suspend them until the internal investigation of their illicit activities/RMT Advertising has concluded.

RMT should not be tolerated and addressed with a firm hand. Not be “challenged” by introducing your own “Legal RMT”.