It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[Freyar]

No, sorry. Nobody should be able to buy their way into gil.

World of Warcraft may have just adopted it, but that doesn't make it a good choice. There should NEVER be a way to buy gil.

[Intaki]

There should NEVER be a way to buy gil.

There already is.

[Freyar]

There already is.

That doesn't mean we should be adding more ways.

[Bishop81]

That doesn't mean we should be adding more ways.

I believe the point is, people are going to buy gil one way or another. They do so now and they will continue to do so with or without SE's "blessing".

Now that I think about it, it's kind of like the Prohibition of the 1920s in the US. Gangsters became filthy rich manufacturing and trafficking booze. But when it ended in 1933 and everyone could legally get in on the market, their income dried up. Is booze good for you? Hell no. Was the Prohibition a good idea? I don't know. But it definitely was good for the gangsters.[1]

On one hand, I agree with you on principle, that RL money should have zero influence on achieving game objectives/rewards. On the other, we have a cash shop that give the RL rich cooler crap than the rest of us "peasants" while gil/gold selling is alive and well in just about every MMO - WoW has been fighting it for over 8 years.

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[1] The ban on buying gil with RL money is kind of like the Prohibition. RMT has a monopoly on RL money to gil conversions, just like the gangster had a monopoly on alcohol production and sales. People still bought gil, just like people back then still drank alcohol. Gangsters got rich because of their monopoly, just like RMT is getting rich now.

PLEX basically legalize gil buying with RL money - without minting more gil and flooding the economy - where every buyer of PLEX is effectively a gil seller. Without their monopoly, RMT's income will drop, just like the post-1933 gangsters.

[Duuude007]

Now that I think about it, it's kind of like the Prohibition of the 1920s in the US.

Oh, because it was a legal right at one time for anyone to partake in, then a few leaders decided to take peoples' right to partake, to the point that those same leaders were forced to back out of the policy change and return things back to the way they were.

Yeah... Incredible comparison.

/sarcasm

[Bishop81]

Oh, because it was a legal right at one time for anyone to partake in, then a few leaders decided to take peoples' right to partake, to the point that those same leaders were forced to back out of the policy chnge and return things back to the way they were.

Yeah... Incredible comparison.

/sarcasm

The results are the same.

Gangsters/RMT got rich, despite the authorities' best efforts at wiping them out. Do you want those bastards to continue making money like they have over the last decades?

Principles are great and all, but results are what matter.

[Duuude007]

Do you want those bastards to continue making money like they have over the last decades?

Would you want SE to dishonor their status as a successful MMO producer by supporting the same money making scheme they are? Really? I sure as hell wouldn't. This is their flagship game, the key reason their company was able to be profitable the past couple years. And your suggestion is for them to betray our trust by doing exactly what they are combating others from doing... right. Genius.

Principles are great and all, but results are what matter.

"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" isn't merely the abandonment of principle, it is symbolic of a company caring more about the bottom line than their customers. Yoshida has time and time again inferred that he would rather the game be shuttered than betray our trust to the level of 1.0 (or worse) once again.

And you speak of results. Sure, the development team is working on a more effective means to prevent the spamming of ads through tells, and when that is managed, a great deal of their potential business will have been mitigated. But that isn't all that they are doing. By far.



I would rather them fight the good fight than pull a Benedict Arnold. I am certain I am not alone in this.

[Magis]

There already is.

Out of SE's control, and you know what happens to those who buy gil? They risk getting perma-banned.

Wonder how many gil buyers are in this thread...

Also lol at the people saying SE should do it cause Blizzard is. The company who hasn't made a good expansion since TBC or WotLK depending who you ask. This is the same company who just released a "content patch" that consisted of new blood elf models (which was suppose to be in the expansion release) and...... a selfie maker. Now I am hearing rumors that 2 patches in there won't be any content till next expansion... lol if true. Blizzard can afford to lose half it's peak subscriber base (around 6 million lost lol), or 800K in a few months over bad ideas, SE not so much. Stop with the stupid notion that SE should copy everything Blizzard is doing... they hit gold with the original WoW and TBC, and it has been slowly bleeding since then. Heck, just look at all these comparisons people bring up... Wildstar and Tera: MMOs that failed and went F2P or shutdown. But no, we should copy all these idea bankrupt games cause getting gil is too hurd.

I think it was the Activision - Blizzard merger that killed the game and turned it into what it is now. It makes so much sense where all the shitty business practices came from.

[Dererk]

No

Just no to this whole thing there's no need for it.

Nope none nada

If your playing tour already paying so there's no excuse for people using the words poor rich or what ever.

[MageBlack]

No

Just no to this whole thing there's no need for it.

Nope none nada

If your playing tour already paying so there's no excuse for people using the words poor rich or what ever.

Then let this thread quietly die.