It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[KisaiTenshi]

In contrast to what you think, this system isn't putting SE in competition with RMT, it's putting players in competition with RMT.

Anyone can buy a token, players who buy tokens are indirectly selling gil if you think about it ... More competition = cheaper goods (gil is the good in this case). Throw in the existence of a legal route, players will feel safer taking the legal route, token selling will have a competitive advantage v.s. buying from a shady spammer.

The end result is that it screws over RMT because they no longer have a monopoly on RL money to gil conversion.

Nope and Nope.

Every game that has done this, the RMT just buy up all the tokens and resell them. Why bother with all the botting now they can just buy the player tokens and resell them.

[Bishop81]

Nope and Nope.

Every game that has done this, the RMT just buy up all the tokens and resell them. Why bother with all the botting now they can just buy the player tokens and resell them.

RMT ... buy up all the tokens ... That obviously means that the tokens were too cheap! Players selling tokens should gouge them for more gil - i.e. supply and demand will automatically fix it.

What does this have to do with botting? ...

[Violyre]

Nope and Nope.

Every game that has done this, the RMT just buy up all the tokens and resell them. Why bother with all the botting now they can just buy the player tokens and resell them.

That could simply be fixed if there was a system to limit an item to X amounts of trades. The seller can trade it, but the person traded to would have it bind to them. Same with if it was on MB. Lock it to the buyer.

[KisaiTenshi]

That could simply be fixed if there was a system to limit an item to X amounts of trades. The seller can trade it, but the person traded to would have it bind to them. Same with if it was on MB. Lock it to the buyer.

Defeats the purpose of it then.

Look, I've played two (freemium in NA) games that have tried to do this, and one was shut down (Wizardry Online), and the other has more bots than players (Archeage.) In the latter, the gold inflation (from the RMT, though easily-killable bots) effectively made it so that 20$ buys you less than a dollar in benefits. Both of these were PvP games. EVE is also a PvP game. FFXIV is not a PvP game.

Did it put an end to illegal RMT? No. It just ramped it up.

In the latter case, now instead of RMT bots stealing your account and looting it, they instead wipe out your credit card with these tokens, and sell them to players below cost.

[Jamein]

Defeats the purpose of it then.

That doesn't defeat the purpose at all, if the item in question can only be sold over the MB ONCE, and the person who purchases has it locked to their account, then the RMT bots are not going to buy them up, it would be a complete waste for them.

Reading through this thread the arguments against this are quite strange, pay2win? What are you winning? There is no REAL PVP in this game, the only real competition in the game between players/FC's are world first clears which would effect about 0.001% of the population.
I'm not exactly for the system, but my own reasons are because I don't think a game should encourage those who have more time than money to grind for gold so they can pay for their next months subscription. Might be good for subs but from an ethical standpoint its stupid as hell. Hey kid, your mom wont pay your sub? Here's an idea, instead of getting a paper round go farm gold so you can play more!

/shrug