Instead of gear loss how about a less harsh outcome?

[akisato]

Ok, for the complaints about luck, consider this. Don't do it. Let the crafters do it. Obviously some people are really looking forward to this, predominately crafters I'd assume. You don't like luck? Ok. Save you're money. As you turn your items into materia, HQ or NQ, sell it.

Put the proceeds in a savings account with all the other money you've earned doing whatever, and when you have a nice stockpile, or VERY nice stockpile, go shopping in the market wards. You can search for the items you're interested in, and look around to see what works of art other people have created and what they're asking for. Then buy a 4 or 5 materia-ed gear.

It's still a long and tedious process as I'm sure people will ask for a LOT for these items, but at least you're not ever losing anything. Someone else, who enjoys it is. Have you nay-sayers even considered this? If you want specifications, find a professional crafter and put in a "work order;" negotiate over a price, and let him do his thing. In a week or maybe month depending on what you're asking for. Fork over the dough and enjoy the item you've been saving for.

On an extra note, I'm not a crafter, but it would be nice if the professional crafters had a way to sign their works of art that others will be drooling over. Then they'll know who to go to.

This. A thousand time this.

[Madruk]

It's also our choice to ask the devs to amend a crappy system. Losing the materia is one thing and I'm fine with that risk, losing the gear is another. The fact that it encourages players to run around in suboptimal gear because they don't want to convert to materia their best gear is also a huge flaw. Fix those two and it'd be a workable system.

[TheVedis]

It's also our choice to ask the devs to amend a crappy system. Losing the materia is one thing and I'm fine with that risk, losing the gear is another. The fact that it also encourages players to run around in suboptimal gear because they don't want to convert to materia their best gear is also a huge flaw. Fix those two and it'd be a workable system.

thats like saying people who dont have all +3 gear is sub optimal and no one should run around with anything less then it either...

people will get by

the game isnt gonna be built around people having all HQ/5 materia gear

only the min/maxers and elitists will care that much

[mysterytaru]

It's also our choice to ask the devs to amend a crappy system. Losing the materia is one thing and I'm fine with that risk, losing the gear is another. The fact that it encourages players to run around in suboptimal gear because they don't want to convert to materia their best gear is also a huge flaw. Fix those two and it'd be a workable system.

Except the gear doesn't automatically turn into materia upon filling the attachment points. You make it out to be that the gear automatically converts on meeting the point value. Learn to read, people.

thats like saying people who dont have all +3 gear is sub optimal and no one should run around with anything less then it either...

people will get by

the game isnt gonna be built around people having all HQ/5 materia gear

only the min/maxers and elitists will care that much

It's gonna be fun watching their wallets empty on that quest for perfection.

[Madruk]

Except the gear doesn't automatically turn into materia upon filling the attachment points. You make it out to be that the gear automatically converts on meeting the point value. Learn to read, people..

You missed the point entirely. If you want a materia you have to wear the piece in order to accumulate points to convert it. No one is going to convert their Dodore Doublets or +3 HQ gear, so what are you going to wear to create a materia? Something less valuable. What does this mean? You're going to be wearing suboptimal equipment while sping because no one is going to want to miss out on materia spiritbond points.

[TheVedis]

You missed the point entirely. If you want a materia you have to wear the piece in order to accumulate points to convert it. No one is going to convert their Dodore Doublets or +3 HQ gear, so what are you going to wear to create a materia? Something less valuable. What does this mean? You're going to be wearing suboptimal equipment while sping because no one is going to want to miss out on materia spiritbond points.

you know, you can go farm and not wear optimal gear and do that to convert.....
or several other things im sure you can figure out

you dont have to always be geared like your fighting the hardest mobs in the game

if you dont like it, BUY your materia and live with it

thats the choice you make, everyone will ahve many options and choices, choose the one that works best for you

if you refuse to do them all, thats also your choice

[Madruk]

you know, you can go farm and not wear optimal gear and do that to convert.....
or several other things im sure you can figure out

you dont have to always be geared like your fighting the hardest mobs in the game

if you dont like it, BUY your materia and live with it

thats the choice you make, everyone will ahve many options and choices, choose the one that works best for you

if you refuse to do them all, thats also your choice

Fishing while wearing battle gear here I come!

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

No one is going to convert their Dodore Doublets or +3 HQ gear, so what are you going to wear to create a materia? Something less valuable. What does this mean? You're going to be wearing suboptimal equipment while sping because no one is going to want to miss out on materia spiritbond points.

Bullsh**, I can guarantee that someone is going to convert their +3 HQ gear or other rare gear, especially the hardcores. Even then they're getting rid of the +1, +2, +3 system and moving to an easier HQ only system, so more people will be willing to convert their HQs.

[Madruk]

Bullsh**, I can guarantee that someone is going to convert their +3 HQ gear or other rare gear, especially the hardcores. Even then they're getting rid of the +1, +2, +3 system and moving to an easier HQ only system, so more people will be willing to convert their HQs.

Why would they do that? It's already been stated there will be no difference between converting NQ and HQ gear.

[mysterytaru]

You missed the point entirely. If you want a materia you have to wear the piece in order to accumulate points to convert it. No one is going to convert their Dodore Doublets or +3 HQ gear, so what are you going to wear to create a materia? Something less valuable. What does this mean? You're going to be wearing suboptimal equipment while sping because no one is going to want to miss out on materia spiritbond points.

So you use the NQ instead of HQ for battlegear to make into materia for your HQ. Hardly 'suboptimal' just because it's not zomg HQ. As for crafting, what does it matter to you what other people are crafting or gathering in? That has, quite literally, no effect on you.

Fishing while wearing battle gear here I come!

You could also do the non-retarded thing and form PTs just for getting attachment points. Or you can keep coming up with absurd reasons that you can't defend. That's always an option too.