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  1. #71
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    What I find funny is that the RMT /tell's have gotten dramatically higher since Gold Saucer, like Gold Saucer has anything that would tempt you to buy gil. Thankfully, developers use MGP as a currency in there instead of gil. Not sure if RMT spammers are aware of this.
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  2. #72
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    DSX's Avatar
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    Lord Darksnakex
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    Durandal
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    In the past few weeks SE weekly ban hammer toll went from few hundreds to few thousands. That is a significant jump, I think SE focus is mostly on the gil bank accounts and a little less the farming bots and that is why in the last few weeks there has been a spike in spamming maybe because the gil sellers want to clear that gil from their gil bank accounts before they get banned within a week. I remember not long ago a huge number of farm bots leveling from scratch being reported on the forum, seem SE banned a good patch of them that week. I think the gil advertisement spammers get least bans (compared to gil bank accounts and farming bots) because they take the least amount of effort to create (farm bots need to be leveled and bank accounts have all their gil).

    That being said, do I think SE is doing enough to minimize the gil sellers activities ? no.
    But part of that is because SE made gil less valuable in this game and thus they think since gil doesn't matter as much as it used to be (say in FFXI for example) then the effect of gil sellers + gil buyers on the game economy is not that important that it would ruin the experience they designed for the players.
    In the other hand IMHO because they designed the game such that gil is not that important the game is missing a ton of core gameplay features for a game to be really an MMORPG.

    SE choices for this game design made it a crippled MMORPG IMHO.
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    Last edited by DSX; 03-06-2015 at 12:02 AM.

  3. #73
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    tocsin's Avatar
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DSX View Post
    SE choices for this game design made it a crippled MMORPG IMHO.
    Well said, and agreed.
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  4. #74
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    BellaEyria's Avatar
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    Reede Rehw-nong
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    Omega
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    It was kind of fun to watch, I stayed here for at least 10 minutes watching them doing their stuff, impressive I said to myself. But know what?
    The new player next to me did not find this fun at all, he was like "what the... is going on? I am confused on what kind of game I just subscribed..."

    So please SE, this is not just about economic and gils stuff problems, it is as the OP said about gilsellers tells : feeling GOOD playing the game, we don't want to be harassed, we don't want to see bots running around like this and stealing our mobs, spoiling the landscapes and remindering us that all of this is just about money: we want to enjoy the game without those parasites !!

    just my 2 cents on this thread...
    I am not english, so sorry for my mistakes trying to do my best...

    PS: They are still there at this hour if you want to watch the show !! Western Thanalan LOC 18x 16y on the BALMUNG server! :x
    And of course please report them ;o)
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    Last edited by BellaEyria; 03-06-2015 at 01:10 AM.

  5. #75
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    Aerowaffle's Avatar
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BellaEyria View Post
    -snip-
    I count at least 13 bots there. That's 13 accounts that if SE bans in a timely manner, will cost the RMT people about $260 (using the steam store ffxiv cost of $20).

    And it shouldn't take more than 5 min to spot these bots.
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  6. #76
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    Nashred's Avatar
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    Sir Nashred
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    What I dont get is why do they have to spam me 5 times in a minute? Do they think I am blind and missed the first. Maybe if they didn't spam so much they would not have to set up a million accounts because I would not spend the time black listing them if they did it like once a hour. All they do is anger people. Yea it has got beyond annoying.. I saw about 15 bots yesterday queuing up for a dungeon.. If I see them why cant SE and get rid of them..
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  7. #77
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    Sir Nashred
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    I count at least 13 bots there. That's 13 accounts that if SE bans in a timely manner, will cost the RMT people about $260 (using the steam store ffxiv cost of $20).

    And it shouldn't take more than 5 min to spot these bots.
    They wont.. I have been watching some on utros for months and they are still there.. I found a bunch more yesterday too.. All fully leveled.
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  8. #78
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    Feron's Avatar
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    Silas Henry
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    Malboro
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Accounts can be banned while not having the name deleted.
    If that's true, then I admit to my ignorance of it. I guess I just got some satisfaction from seeing actual evidence that spammer accounts were being destroyed in some fashion.

    Sometimes I think they just don't do anything about it because those accounts are paying a subscription fee. What percentage of "active accounts" would go up in smoke if every gil-seller simultaneously vanished? 1%? 3%? That's lost revenue. /tinfoilhat
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  9. #79
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    Kio's Avatar
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    Kio Solais
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    RMT have started using my character name in their spam text, this really disturbs me. It's one thing to spam message me, it's now crossed the line when they insert my character name. Please make this stop.
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  10. #80
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    Elmeron's Avatar
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    Ironica Acinori
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 58
    On my World (Faerie) it's extremely obvious that it's the same people, over and over again, who are spamming me with these whispers. I can tell because of the utter lack of creativity when they make their characters, naming them almost the same exact ways and spamming me with the same gold sites. I've never used a gold site and never plan to, so it's super annoying and I've just stopped even blacklisting because I get so many whispers per day there is literally no point in blacklisting. SE needs to fix this by the expansion or I will begin to suspect that they are actually in league with gold selling sites to turn a profit.

    It's absolutely ridiculous how obvious of a problem it is and how SE has done nothing about it.
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    Last edited by Elmeron; 03-06-2015 at 01:41 PM.

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