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  1. #151
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    This isn't exactly any different from the random rule in FF8 though...it was actually worse there.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    This isn't exactly any different from the random rule in FF8 though...it was actually worse there.
    Except that you can stack your deck against random in FF8 by [Card-RF]ing all your junk cards before playing, stacking the deck in your favor much like the NPCs are doing here.
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  3. #153
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    It's still not okay that they gave the Random rule to over half the NPCs in Heavensward after admitting the rule had issues on NPCs.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine View Post
    Except that you can stack your deck against random in FF8 by [Card-RF]ing all your junk cards before playing, stacking the deck in your favor much like the NPCs are doing here.
    Back in FFVIII you could also mess with regional rules to change them, so it wasn't that bad. Dunno how they work in this game — they're supposed to be regional but I've seen two NPCs in the same area with different rules. Also, some NPCs seem to be unaffected by this and they always have no regional rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    It's still not okay that they gave the Random rule to over half the NPCs in Heavensward after admitting the rule had issues on NPCs.
    admitting what? its working as intended
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    admitting what? its working as intended
    Well, aside from the bug where chaos + random = same cards in the same order every time (did they ever fix that? I haven't had the combo in a while, so I don't know), they acknowledged that players don't like it. I didn't mean that there was an issue programmatically with random+NPCs (even though there is - they literally ignore it, not even randomizing from their small pool), I meant that the players had an issue with it and SE acknowledged it. Then they gave it to as many NPCs as they could.

    When I saw the rule spread on the new NPCs, I felt almost as trolled as I had when I did the Zodiac Weapon quest, where you have to click okay in a pop-box that says you have a 99% chance of having to start from scratch if you proceed (it's lying, but totally trolling).
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    if they would implement things which players would like, than alex normal would drop ilvl 300 stuff, every npc would have: a 1 star deck, no rules and 100% droprate and the game would be boring as hell after 1 day

    random rule is cool and offers a varity of different actions while grinding for cards and god beware - players have to use their brains for winning (one of the worst things possible as it seems)
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    Last edited by ServerCollaps; 09-04-2015 at 01:31 AM.

  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    if they would implement things which players would like, than alex normal would drop ilvl 300 stuff, every npc would have: a 1 star deck, no rules and 100% droprate and the game would be boring as hell after 1 day

    random rule is cool and offers a varity of different actions while grinding for cards and god beware - players have to use their brains for winning (one of the worst things possible as it seems)
    ... huh? Most players like difficult content. This isn't about difficult content. This is about fun. The random rule is not fun.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    ...
    No, good sir, it's not. Random rule doesn't make TT challenging, it makes it, uh, random. No one wants to farm cards with low drop rate with a randomized deck.

    The worst part comes when not only they add Random rule to most NPCs, but they also combine it with Chaos. Tell me, how do I use my brain when most of my games have at least 2 level 1 cards which are chosen to be played at random and my opponent has pretty good cards? I'm, of course, talking about Tataru 3.0. More than 1000 games have I played with her and only about 150-200 of them were wins because the AI made dumb mistakes. Do I have to get 2500 wins like I did to get Gaius card in order to see either Firion or Lightning? That'd take forever, at least with those rules.

    Take a look at this game. It's a perfect example of why RNG ruins Triple Triad.


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    Last edited by Scalizor; 09-04-2015 at 03:20 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    owning the hilda card is pretty good
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