The random rule is not okay

[Kharhaz]

Tadacho gave you guys a lot of good advice and you guys just seem to overlook it rather than ask for more help or for him to elaborate because you refuse to see past your idea that its not possible to win unless random gives you the best hand possible. If you are having problems with him at 60+ cards, then I honestly don't know how you farmed that many cards without picking up on common NPC tendencies that myself, Tadacho, and plenty of other players learned.

This is also why I didn't bother to elaborate myself, because you people are just coming at Tadacho or trying to prove him wrong at every step when he's the only guy here trying to help you.

[Aeyis]

Seriously it's only two NPCs people, and Rowena is the only who has a card that you can't get by other means (and drop rate seems higher than normal for a five star on both). Try farming Urth's Fount in Duty Finder and then come back and tell me Landanel is "too hard" or "too cheap".

For the average player farming Urth's Fount will be easier then farming Landanel.
You can't really bait NPCs with the random rule, because typically your cards will be much worse, whereas their cards have 2/3 sides you can't flip.

Also, the ''got more cards'' excuse is pretty dumb, because you need 60 cards to get a decent chance at winning against the stronger NPCs. And ironically to do that you will need most of their cards.

[Tadacho]

Thanks Kharhaz. I'll just stop posting here before my rude behaviour shames Hyperion ever further. Good luck to those still after Odin.

[Welsper59]

Tadacho gave you guys a lot of good advice and you guys just seem to overlook it rather than ask for more help or for him to elaborate because you refuse to see past your idea that its not possible to win unless random gives you the best hand possible. If you are having problems with him at 60+ cards, then I honestly don't know how you farmed that many cards without picking up on common NPC tendencies that myself, Tadacho, and plenty of other players learned.

This is also why I didn't bother to elaborate myself, because you people are just coming at Tadacho or trying to prove him wrong at every step when he's the only guy here trying to help you.

Random is entirely about your luck of the draw. Just like real card games... there's no strategy behind RNG. You don't need to have the best hand, but you certainly need a decent one (unless other rules are involved... which is still the case of needing a decent hand for the rules in play lol). It is 100% possible that people will run some of the worst hands possible for 10+ games in a row, even with 60+ cards that are at their disposal. You ever fail to gather something 13/18 times out of three unspoiled 1-star nodes at 95% success? I have. Those ridiculous failures stick with you man! lol

It's the fact you point it out as though RNG is (almost) impossible to be a problem with Random that people tend to snap back. You're attacking them for something that might be out of their hands (RNG). Now, I'm willing to bet that some people really do just need to get out of the 1-star only decks lol, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people are simply frustrated at RNG being a d-bag to them.

For most cases, "strategy" with Random only involves building up the deck to get better card access so you'll have a better chance at winning. If you get a decent hand, bait and trap where you can. Hope you win. That's basically it and doesn't go much further than that, since that strategy works on practically every NPC, regardless of rule lol.

[Kenji1134]

*popcorn*

All Open + Random = Luck THEN Strategy

First, you need to have cards that are actually strong enough to defend against or attack your opponent. Simply put, if your have consists of cards which have nothing above a 4, then you are vulnerable to 75% of attacking sides (Landenel uses mostly cards that have only 1 weak side), and can attack 25% of their sides. In that event, when your hand is clearly inferior, your odds of winning are next to zero, UNLESS the npc makes several very stupid moves.

If your hand is at least decent, IE you can take their weaker sides, and defend against things other than 8's and 9's, then you need strategy. You know which cards he has, so attempt to play yours to minimize your weaknesses based on his remaining card's strengths.
But again, if your hand is such that you can neither attack nor defend consistantly, simply due to your card being weaker on 3 of 4 sides... GG cya, chalk up another one for Landenel.

[Quesse]

Thanks for the feedback. We've been sharing it all with the development team.

Not very much time has passed since Triple Triad made it's glorious release, and it’s quite possible that the random rule feels a bit more difficult due to the fact that players do not have enough cards just yet.

If you feel it is posing a challenge, we ask that you venture throughout Eorzea to collect more cards and then try to challenge these opponents again! You’ll most likely feel a difference once you have more cards and are able to use higher tiers of rare cards in your deck.

So you're saying its more "random" the more cards we have????? <confused>

That word... I don't think it means what you think it means.

[Welsper59]

*popcorn*

All Open + Random = Luck THEN Strategy

First, you need to have cards that are actually strong enough to defend against or attack your opponent. Simply put, if your have consists of cards which have nothing above a 4, then you are vulnerable to 75% of attacking sides (Landenel uses mostly cards that have only 1 weak side), and can attack 25% of their sides. In that event, when your hand is clearly inferior, your odds of winning are next to zero, UNLESS the npc makes several very stupid moves.

If your hand is at least decent, IE you can take their weaker sides, and defend against things other than 8's and 9's, then you need strategy. You know which cards he has, so attempt to play yours to minimize your weaknesses based on his remaining card's strengths.
But again, if your hand is such that you can neither attack nor defend consistantly, simply due to your card being weaker on 3 of 4 sides... GG cya, chalk up another one for Landenel.

This is pretty much the gist of it. GG if your hand that's dealt is bad. GG if the NPC outplays any decent hand, it happens. Tadacho was trying to say something similar, but came off too strong on the initial post lol.

[Kharhaz]

I enjoy helping people with TT, but apparently you guys just aren't ready for help. If you take the approach of complaining because you had a bad experience, that's understandable.

However, you have helpful information right in front of you, stated multiple times, along with the assurance that you only need a mid level deck to do this with a good level of success. Yet, still you provide baseless probabilities that you obviously just made up on the spot, ignore relevant helpful information, and still claim there is no strategy to random when one has been provided for you.

When you're ready to improve yourself, the information will still be here, and more would probably be provided if you were actually willing to listen.

[Aeyis]

However, you have helpful information right in front of you, stated multiple times, along with the assurance that you only need a mid level deck to do this with a good level of success. Yet, still you provide baseless probabilities that you obviously just made up on the spot, ignore relevant helpful information, and still claim there is no strategy to random when one has been provided for you.

When you're ready to improve yourself, the information will still be here, and more would probably be provided if you were actually willing to listen.

That's not the case. A mid level deck will not give you a good level of success, for that you need a high level deck.
A mid level deck will give you a chance at success, which is a small upgrade over RNGesus smilling upon you.

The underlined part I found a bit ironic.

[Kharhaz]

That's not the case. A mid level deck will not give you a good level of success, for that you need a high level deck.
A mid level deck will give you a chance at success, which is a small upgrade over RNGesus smilling upon you.

The underlined part I found a bit ironic.

It seems you're mostly more interested in getting your own personal point across and being "right", rather than actually having a logical discussion. I'm not really concerned if you don't believe me, if you value your opinion so much that you are not willing to even acknowledge that there might be some sense to what another person is saying, I think you may be better suited to blogging than posting on forums. In any case, I based that statement off of personal experience, if you want to call it luck or assume I'm lying, then feel free to do so.

I feel like the players on this forum meet helpful advice with complete opposition.