The random rule is not okay

[Aeyis]

First off, you outright claimed that myself and Tadacho were wrong, purely based on the fact that you could not accomplish the same thing. I'm sure that people are going to get defensive or claim otherwise, but your posts certainly convey this message. In any case, this is what happened when I tried to post an explanation of one possible outcome:

Where did you see this written? This not about players ability with TT, or specifically, my ability with the game.
It's about facts regarding how difficult, or easy it is to win with a good rate.

Based on my own, and many others experience, we logically deduced that with only a medium level deck, it's definately possible to beat NPCs who use the Random rule. However, your win rate will be quite poor and that includes needing to abuse the NPCs faulty programming.

My posts did not in any way or shape convey the message you say.
Tadacho's advice was good, but it was advice ment for stronger opponents in general, and does not help with the Random rule. I do believe he did make his own arguments solid by mentioning at the end that indeed, those tips do not guaranty a good win rate, but they will help improve it.

Landenel does not have a spectacular deck either, Ifrit and Titan are hardly better than most 2 star cards and usually one of the two will usually be played first whether you can take it or not makes no difference because Landenel will always put them somewhere that is advantageous to you.

How is a 7/7 combo placed in a corner in any way an advantageous for a 2 star deck? Not a single 2 star can flip that.

Next, the ideal situation is Ifrit being placed on the bottom right, from here you can easily bait Bahamut or Odin if you've got a halfway decent card, Rhitathyn or Succubus work extremely well if you are lucky enough to pull one of them. Odin will either take it and leave himself exposed, or be placed on top of it for no effect.

I honestly dont recall if ive ever seen a NPC allow a 4 star primal to be exposed on its single weak side. The only thing that could cause that to happen is the ''stupid mistake'' everyone talks about. Its pretty hard to pull it off without just the right cards tho.

If he uses Bahamut that's still fine because you can easily capture him in that position. His other cards are nothing to worry about, but you need to prepare for the second 5 star, so at this point I pretty much try to trade cards with him in order to minimize the use of his remaining 5* (sometimes there is no second one, but better safe than sorry). This is why your cards for the most part don't matter, but I'd say you need at least 2 good corner cards and a halfway decent epic or legendary, your other two cards are simply used to block off the board and recapture or to take his exposed cards.

That's the thing about random tho. I've had decks with 1 3 star, and 1 4 star, the rest all 1 star's. All of his cards have atleast 1 7, meaning that you can't block him in a corner with a 2 star. Altho bahamut could be taken if he uses that, it relies on you actually having a 6(7)+ on his unprotected weak side. In my last match, the only card that had that was levi. Leaving its weak side (a 1) unprotected, and since I had no means to retake it, it would have been a card swap.

This is just a partial explanation of one possible outcome/flow of the match, it's not an exact science and there's some odd RNG, but there's nothing bad that will happen otherwise, and sometimes he will use odin defensively in the corner or something and sets up the possibility to take him for free with your legendary. If you analyze the sides of his cards, you should know what directions he can take, and which he can not at all times, the right side of the board is a very good place to start, and you will realize that you do not need as many good cards as you may think, because your defenses will be set up by taking his exposed cards. This is why I say that brute force is a bad way to go about it, I'm not afraid to sacrifice cards to control the board because I can easily take them back later, I know which spots are best to bait and which are best played defensively, as well as which spots are dangerous.

Noone mentioned trying to brute force it. Odin is typically used as second last card. That mean's it's very hard to attempt to defend against it, since it has 3 sides that can likely take all of your adjacent cards; let alone take Odin.
His cards exposed sides are usually well protected. Sacrificing cards is certainly the right way to go about this, however if most of your opponents cards can flip 2-3 sides at once; then you are fighting a war of attrition at best.
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I spent my time developing a real strategy, while others spent their time complaining for no reason. This is why I am reluctant to help you.
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This is the first time you bothered responded to others with arguments of your own; instead of simply saying it is the case.

We did give examples of why it is not so easy to beat a Random rule opponent.

Edit: I could elaborate a lot more, but I think I got my point across. Which is that people are focusing on the wrong aspects of this matchup and are not noticing his obvious weaknesses because they think his cards are too strong. A human being has the ability to think, NPCs do not.

Human beings have the ability to make mistakes despite their programming, NPCs can be flawless if their programming is.
His cards are too strong.


I would not missjudge people so easily by the way. Many people on these forums that are discussing TT have 50+ cards, and many hours spend playing TT.
Just because they have a different opinion then you does not mean ''all they do is complain''
To me it sounds like you are the one trying to prove your right.

Summary: Opponents with strong decks who use the Random rule can definately be beating by a medium level deck. Noone claimed otherwise. But due to the nature of the Random rule; it's impossible to beat them with a good success rate unless you have a 3 star deck. And even with a 3 star deck; this can happen: