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    Player
    Eyn's Avatar
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    Vickyle Eyn
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    Masamune
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Feel so frustrating losing on RANDOM rule for over an hour. Have to deal with RNG on getting good cards, then another RNG stage to get the loot drops. Already had bad RNG experience on titan extreme - lost roll on 30 gullfaxi and 6 nightmares (after patch 2.5). Wasted 6 hours non-stop hunting 1 particular atma (after patch 2.51)

    Moreover, with the way of how current tournament works, the desire to collect all cards is basically vanished.
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    Cooperal's Avatar
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    Pearl Lion
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    It's amazing this flew over testers heads to be honest. I'd say it would be perfectly fine for PvP TT. Or at least if both sides had upgraded to 2* or 3*.

    If they don't get rid of it on NPCs they should at the very least make their card-pool a bit more balanced. It would be broken in the opposite direction if their pool was exactly like ours (considering how often their moves counter common logic), but they at least need more weak-mid-tier spots.
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    Zellos Wilder
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    There is nothing wrong with the random rule even against the NPCs who have a big advantage over you... this actually makes Triple Triad more of a challenge instead of every NPC handing over their cards to you on a plate (which is kind of the case with the majority of them) it's suppose to be difficult to win against some NPCs whether its skill based or luck based, both these NPC are the hardest ones in the game to beat which gives a challenge something which is going to last awhile in the game, you can't expect to beat everything straight away. It just seems everyone wants the game to be easy without thinking oh this npc is a bitch to beat but I will eventually win and get my cards that I need (if you really wanted it you would do so)
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    Zellos Wilder
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Lets say they do make the random rule different for these NPCs they will be beaten quickly and cards are gotten in a day or so then which NPCs are left to be beaten? None because all the NPCs are too easy to win now. At the moment yes the rule favours the NPCs which it should do as they have the advantage like a casino does in their card games "the house will have the advantage in odds" this is normal and to be expected this makes them difficult to win and makes Triple Triad last longer as a whole, if they changed the NPC rule for random this ruins any challenge and difficulty of TT NPCs and makes the replay value next to nothing to come back later and try to finally win them.
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    Zellos Wilder
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Meh too many players complain and SE always nerfs stuff in the game which ruins parts of the game for players like myself :/ Keeping the rule for the NPC as it is does not ruin the game for anyone else players are just whining and want everything easier... its like 2nd coil T6-T8 it was a difficult challenge which would of lasted but players whine and it becomes too easy and then the content doesn't last as long.
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    Last edited by ZellosWilder; 03-15-2015 at 06:01 AM.

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    TheSamplingParadise's Avatar
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    Valacer Edeon
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Landenel is seriously so broken. I'm at 58/60 cards, and nearly 3/5 pulls are always one stars. Case and point:




    I've spent the last hour trying to play him, and out of almost 30 matches, I maybe scrapped 2 wins, 2 draws, and 26 losses.


    This is not okay. And this is not coil either.
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  7. #7
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Kai Magnus
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZellosWilder View Post
    its like 2nd coil T6-T8 it was a difficult challenge which would of lasted but players whine and it becomes too easy and then the content doesn\\'t last as long.
    Mechanics and probably rigging are two vastly different things.

    When it comes to random rule set 30-60 cards are present and only 5 of which are chosen semi-randomly based on restrictions on the player\\'s deck.

    Now the NPC how ever only has 7-9 cards in his/her card pool of which only 3-4 are selected semi-randomly and one- two are always present depending in the NPC.

    So as you can see the probability and statistics of the random rule set are anything but random for the NPC and ergo compleatly rigged against the player character.
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    Crystal Twilight
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I also really hate Random we have to have 30-60 cards and they only have 1 deck and keep getting the same cards all all we get most of the time are the lowest cards possible, I don't play triple triad anymore cause of this! And i don't get many of the other rules either! and they need to remove the timer on npcs where do these npc got be anyways, no where, I can see timer on in "pvp and Tournaments" but not npc match some players like me can be bad at math and can take longer to figure stuff out! This timer doesn't help me at all...

    And has for "pvp and Tournaments" that i'll never be able to play in cause i'm to slow! And so i'll never get the card/s that are only gotten from Tournaments that won't be fun or someone like me who won't be able to win that much!
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    We need a setting to auto use Aetheryte Tickets ~ An amount set by the players like set to 500 Gil if a teleport cost over that amount it will auto-use a ticket!

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    Scalizor's Avatar
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    Zen Shiwaburo
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Random rule wasn't as bad for me until I got to Tataru in Heavensward. I hate Random, I hate Chaos and I hate the fact that they put those two together on an NPC that has a 2-3% drop rate on the last 2 NPC cards I need — I know they can also be obtained from Platinum packs, but that could take a while.
    It's so RNG-based that I'm starting to get sick of it. I know it's meant to be hard, but I'd rather play against an NPC with a smarter AI or better cards than leave it up to luck. Not to mention the fact that she isn't available the whole time.
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    Last edited by Scalizor; 09-03-2015 at 07:38 AM.

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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 90
    It's still not okay that they gave the Random rule to over half the NPCs in Heavensward after admitting the rule had issues on NPCs.
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