The random rule is not okay

[Hybris-Maenad]

Grind harder weaklings!

Yes, you cannot curbstomp 2 npcs on day one of playing cards.

Get over yourselves and come back to these guys when you have 60 cards. Landenel only needs to be beaten once to count towards your Squall card (you can also opt to skip him entirely) and both cards he drops are obtainable through other means. Rowena does have an exclusive card, but is still farmable with even a 2-star deck.

Are the rules broken? Yes, to create a measure of difficulty and give you incentive to work towards 60 cards. Neither of these NPCs hold you back from either the Squall card achievement nor the 60 card unlock on your 3-star cards.

Shut up and play cards.

[Krr]

Are the rules broken? Yes, to create a measure of difficulty and give you incentive to work towards 60 cards.

Uh, you saw that people who have 60-card collections still hate the Random rule, right? It's terrible. Experienced TT players are just going to skip over it unless the local NPC suddenly starts agreeing to a Reverse regional rule.

[Aeyis]

Grind harder weaklings!

Yes, you cannot curbstomp 2 npcs on day one of playing cards.

Get over yourselves and come back to these guys when you have 60 cards. Landenel only needs to be beaten once to count towards your Squall card (you can also opt to skip him entirely) and both cards he drops are obtainable through other means. Rowena does have an exclusive card, but is still farmable with even a 2-star deck.

Are the rules broken? Yes, to create a measure of difficulty and give you incentive to work towards 60 cards. Neither of these NPCs hold you back from either the Squall card achievement nor the 60 card unlock on your 3-star cards.

Shut up and play cards.

That is incorrect. You will find it nigh impossible to hit 60 cards without beating the 2 NPCs in question. 1 Has a unique card, and the other cards are rather difficult to obtain from their other sourcse. (mostly due to RNG)

I'm sorry.. but if you're finding it impossible to beat a Random NPC, then you're doing it wrong.
Especially when you have 63 cards and unlocked 3 star unlimited.

Since you don't seem to understand how the rules of the game work,
here is a video for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkuzTXPvAPs
Tell us if there is anything you don't understand yet about the game after watching that, and we will be happy to help you learn to understand TT.

I know I can't convince people to do something they don't want to do, but at the same time embracing this kind of challenge instead of dreading it can really help people become better players, learning to use cards they normally don't and picking up on NPC tendencies. That's why I hate to see people get frustrated and ask for something to be toned down.

I can understand that. In my case I could defeat both NPCs earlier on, get their cards without too much of a problem. (in case of Rowenda due to a lucky drop) But regardless I would have continued playing untill I won anyway.
For anyone that doesnt spend an enormous amount of time on the game like myself or a number of others; it's understandable they would become incredibly frustrated with the rule.
It's pretty much for them that I was trying to make my point.

The only thing that personally annoys me about TT is that the Nanamo card isnt a drop, but bought for a ridiculous amount of MGP. :P

[Tsuya]

looks like someone is having hard time getting Odin

I just collected other "easier' cards first to get to 60

[Noxifer]

I think that those proposing strategies and/or snide comments haven't quite read and understood what the main issue is. =)

The issue isn't that you're given bad cards half the time or more. That's a given to happen with a Random rule.

The issue is that the NPC is never given bad cards.

(At least the way I've understood it... I might be mistaken, of course, in which case I apologize.)

[JellyBelly]

I don't like the random rule myself but obviousely some do. I don't think the rule is broken. It is unfair but some people like it, so I say if you don't like it, don't play it. Only a few npcs have it and from the thread I see that most people don't like the rule can still beat the npcs with sufficient cards, so why ask the dev team to change it? It is your choice. I choose not to play it if I don't like it. I rather not ask the team to change the rule, which some other players do like.

[Madigari]

Once again, you're doing your best to insult instead of be civil. This has never once been about making every match a win. This has never once been about making the game ridiculously easy. This has been about a mini-game where every rule affects the NPCs -except- Random because the NPCs have such a narrow card pool that their cards are -always- at their best (again, assuming you ignore the forbidden decks NPCs are able to construct).

You can try to gloss over the argument with insults or being diminutive to people with a different view point as much as you like, but it will not change the fact that I've never once asked for this game to be on easy mode. I've asked for the rule to potentially affect the NPC in a negative way, similarly to how every other rule in Triple Triad can.

[Milleus]

How have I insulted you?

I get your point that Random rule is more disadvantageous for us players because we have a larger pool of cards, and NPCs have a smaller pool of cards..
I understand the topic at hand.. but what I'm trying to say is that I enjoy that it is done this way because it provides challenge for me at least.
I can't state my opinion of why I enjoy Random rule and don't think that it should be changed? is that how it is?

You, on the other hand, are the one that has been insulting me.
Yes, I misread your post and I apologised, heck, I even agreed in the situation where you do get all 1 star cards, it is indeed impossible.
and if you want the rule to potentially affect NPCs in a NEGATIVE way.. you're basically making it easier for you, isn't it? irony..?

It's ok.. we don't have to agree.

[Aeyis]

if you want the rule to potentially affect NPCs in a NEGATIVE way.. you're basically making it easier for you, isn't it? irony..?

It's ok.. we don't have to agree.

There is a difference between not agreeing, and trying to twist an argument in any way that will benefit your own, I think.

All rules other then the Random rule also apply to NPCs. Due to the nature of NPC decks they are effectively immune to the rule. Asking for NPCs to be effected by the rule is not asking for it to become easier, it is asking for the game mechanics..to apply.

But aside from that..
in "normal" random scenarios, I still like that the Random rule makes it challenging.

Yes.. I know about the rules and and how we have a bigger card pool compared to the NPCs.. but that's part of the challenge, isn't it?

I guess these days everybody just wants it easy.. :/

Leveling from 1 to 50 while wearing no equipment other then the Lvl1 class weapon, also makes things challenging.
The NPCs in question already have some of the better decks around; that should be plenty of challenge.
Even without the Random rule in effect it would be very hard to win against such a deck using only a 2 star deck, for example.

It is like the Fallen Ace rule on Landanel, completely pointless seeing how he never has an Ace, and due to the random rule the player is very unlikely to have one either.

[Madigari]

How have I insulted you?

By continually trying to frame the argument as "some players just want everything to be easy"? Acknowledging that all one star cards makes it impossible, but making sure to add "which hardly ever happens" to make it seem like I'm talking about a one-in-a-million occurrence? Nevermind the fact that JayCommon has posted numerous hands showing just that in the span of a night.

Again, this isn't about making things easier, this is about making the rules affect both persons in a match instead of just one person and leaving the other in a unique position to win the majority of the time. Whether or not it makes it easier is irrelevant to the point. If they still draw their god-tier hands, I would be perfectly fine with that. To reiterate, I've already beaten them and farmed them, even without the Random rule affecting them. But the Random rule -should- affect them, same as every other rule that already does.