The random rule is not okay

[Ralos]

Tripple triad was always a fun game involving learning how to use the rules to your advantage. Additionally, the rules applied to both players (obviously) so either one had the potential to learn and use the rules to gain the upper hand, even with the cards stacked against you (Like how we all beat and farm Elmer with the starter deck).

The random rule destroys this balance.

It's not something you can overcome with skill and/or wit when it's the only real rule in play, especially when up against an NPC. That bit about rules applying to both players? yeah, that's not a thing with this rule. Considering an NPC has a card pool of about 8 with usually only 1 of them being a one star card. The game literally stacks the deck against you and makes it nearly impossible to win when you have no other rules to make up for it like the plus rule.

Take Landenel for example.
He plays with Random and fallen ace.
None of his cards have an A so that rule can only work against you
He has a card pool of SIX CARDS
which means EVERY HAND he has great cards
while every person playing him has at LEAST 5 1 star cards in their card pool (the starter deck)
and if you don't have 30 cards yet, you will ALWAYS get stuck with 4 of your cards being 1 star, despite the random rule (still follows deck building rules)

If you are dealt such a hand (happens quite commonly) then it comes down to simple numbers. With his rule set, his cards are nearly unflippable while yours are screwed from every angle...

This rule needs to be fixed.

It upsets the balance

(also it's just more crappy RNG we're all tired of. There's enough RNG everywhere else in this game)

[Firepower]

I agree, the easiest way I can imagine fixing this rule would be removing the deck restrictions whilst random rule is in play, so if you have a bunch of 4 and 5 star cards you could possibly end up with a stacked deck. Whereas currently you are restricted to only 1 3/4/5 star card (pre 60 cards) and the rest 2 or 1 stars, which generally leads to you getting 1 and 2 star decks with a 3 star if you are lucky. Landenel is possibly the worst for this, I think I had more success vs Rowena than him but they both are almost impossible to farm consistently, luckily Landenel doesn't drop any cards that you cant get from elsewhere. But Rowena drops Louisoix which makes it a pain to get.

I would assume after 60 cards (currently at 52) you would have a bit more success as it allows 3 star cards across your whole deck which means you should get a few and only a 4 or 5 star then takes the restriction of a high value one. My main issue is that any npc with the random rule (regional or otherwise) should have a massive bonus on MGP points reward for winning as it is so much harder to win vs them over any other npc in the game, If beating Landenel gave 300 points or so it would make sense since you just have to draw and lose until you finally get a hand that can win. Maybe some kind of (2x 5x 10x) multiplier to MGP from the random rule.

For instance
Indolent Imperial: 30 fee. 18 Loss, 48 Draw, 120 win (-12 loss, +18 draw, +90 win)
Landanel: 25 fee. 7 Loss, 21 Draw, 53 win (-18 loss, -4 draw, +18 win)

Considering you can beat imperial over and over with occasional draws and Landanel is just random pot luck where 80% of the time you will lose due to getting a bum deck. Not to mention Drawing against imperial is the same reward as winning against the guy. Where is any incentive to ever play anyone with the random rule. Rowena has similar rewards to Imperial but it really is just pot luck, no strategy can win a game when your best card has a 6 their best side and their worst card is a 7 on their worst side.

[Alegis]

Random would be ok, if you wouldnt have to beat an NPC hundreds of times for a specific card.

I really hoped with Triple Triad they would finally bring something in which is really just to have some fun. Instead they decided to turn it into another mind-numbing grind.

Wonder if we will ever see something which doesnt involve grind/rng, since even Housing (something what shouldnt be an kind of endgame goal but something to play around between endgame and stuff) is nothing but a pure endless grind

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

It's funny that in the TT area of the Gold Saucer, all the dedicated NPC's have a huge crowd gathered around them, except for one. There's maybe two or three people there, and that's because that NPC plays by the random rule.

[Shadygrove]

The easiest way to fix this would to give the NPCs a 60+ card pool to draw from.

This should include a healthy component of one and two star cards.

[h0tNstilettos]

I agree that the random rule is broken in this.

Aside from random, I also find Rhutwyda to be broken. Her ascension deck consists of mostly 3, 4, and 5 star cards with 8s and 9s, so the very first card she plays already becomes too high to take as well as the others following. It's weird because I beat her when I had a weaker deck before first deck upgrade and thought she wasn't that bad at all, but after the deck upgrade her deck is suddenly not the same one I faced before. Completely broke. Extremely rare occasion you can get a win if you find one lucky opening and then try and defend all other steals. Maybe once I get the final deck upgrade I'll be able to manage more wins against her. The other ascension opponents such as the Indolent Imperial and Vorsaile can be beaten with an Ascension deck of your own with ease at a high win rate.

[Nethr]

Landenel is the most broken TT match ever. I have never seen odds so clearly and unfairly stacked against someone in a card game before. Absolutely ridiculous. Please fix it devs. I consider myself a really good player and I am lucky sometimes just to bring it to a draw. At the very least make it so that in random matches we are able to draw more than one 4 or 5 star.




EDIT: Just lost/draw 15 impossible-to-win matches in a row against Landenel. I have 49 cards in my list, there is no way that this is not completely broken/unfair.

[Shneibel]

random will be ok if the NPC have more cards than just 6 or 8 cards.

[Gurpsmeister]

Bump for great justice. A dev response would be great here, Random is going to be the least played rule if they don't do something to make it a bit less of a roflstomp

[Mouldy]

Cannot agree more