Reducing perception to hunt big fishes ?

[Wisdombeer]

Hi there,

I'm just wondering if reducing the perception stat can help to get big fishes. I read somewhere something about it (guess on reddit) but cannot find the topic again. The idea would be that perception reduction would lower the overall size of the fishes, and consequently reducing the "get away" messages.

For example by removing the foragers boots for another ilvl 70/90 boots with gathering meld.

Did anyone test this and can confirm it does reduce the "get away" messages ?

Thank you for the tips.

[Shadygrove]

Its magical thinking aided and abetted by inadequate sample size.

Nothing else.

I tested it using Patrician's gaiters with +3 gathering. After my inadequate sample was finished I called BS.

[ServerCollaps]

that theory is crap

in the end you have to get as much perception as possible anyway, if you want to catch shoni or want to get the lucis rod

[chidarake]

why would you not want to catch hq fish.??

don't get me wrong I have no idea if that would actually work or not but seriously I don't see how it could be true, that being said im sure you can find people who swear by it.

personally im stacking as much of those two stats as I possibly can without the aid of food.

[Wisdombeer]

Well, the idea behind this is the following :

If you try to catch hard fishes with lot of escape (say Neptodragon) that do not require mooching, a high perception would for sure increase the number of HQ Neptodragon. By lowering your perception, you would hook smaller Neptodragon and increase the chance you have to land it.

This would work if :

- perception increase size of fishes (which is the case)
- perception does not increase the chance to hook a big fish, independently of the size (donno if it is the case)
- HQ fishes are harder to land than NQ fishes (donno if it is the case... in case of "get away" message, there is no clue of the fish was HQ or not)

Maybe some of you have hints about these two latter points ?

For any fish that require mooching (and even more for double mooching), you want, of course, have the maximum perception possible. That's what I currently have (besides Lucis, I'm 9/30 now).

[ServerCollaps]

- perception increase size of fishes (which is the case)

I caught bigger fish with lower perception

I'm pretty sure the game only differs between HQ and NQ and gives the caught fish a rdm size number dependig on this
you have a higher chance to land HQ fish with more perception, but perception does not increase the size of NQ fish to "make them HQ"

[Wisdombeer]

Well, I noted while farming Giant Clams that HQ ones are always > 125 ilms, while NQ can be lower than 100 ilms. So in mean, more HQ mean bigger fishes. Does not really matter if the size comes first or after the HQ decision.

I should edit my post and states :

- perception increase HQ chance (and we dont care for most fishes besides mooching)

What I wonder is if perception increase the rate of big fishes. But that would require thousands of cast to have a good statistic on 1 fish. Maybe someone did it, I wont ;-)
I also wonder if HQ fishes are harder to land than NQ fishes... but I dont see any way of testing this...

[Highwilds]

I can only add the math that after I got 3,000 HQ fish achievement, I had fished up overall somewhere around 19,xxx fish, making my HQ rate roughly 19%. Don't remember exact numbers though. LS mate did their own calculation and got somewhat similar number.


But what I personally believe is that certain fish has different size pools. People with high gear can catch all normal fish 100% so their pool doesn't matter anymore. But when it comes to big fish, like say Matriarch, the size matters. How I see it, there's a big pool of big fish that you can't catch, then there's a few smaller ones that you can catch. Gathering makes you reach the fish, but Perception allows you to reach further into the pool of fish, teasing those bigger fish that makes your gathering not high enough to reel in. When both Gathering and Perception matches the catch, added with the RNG of % of HQ, bam, you get a HQ. That's where high gathering and low perception comes in to "safely" reel in the smallest fishies of the pool. Remember, you don't have to believe this!

[Wisdombeer]

Well, the only way to really attest this is by testing. And Giant Clam could be pretty good for this due to the high hook rate.

Fish for 100 hooks with max gathering and max perception. See how many NQ / HQ / gets away / line snap. Do the same with max gathering but much less perception. And get some results. If there is less "gets away" and line snap, then this works. Otherwise, no.

Not like I really want to do this though...

[Flipside101]

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