So I was kicked from Halatali today

[Cynfael]

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1. You can edit your own posts to circumvent the character limit

2. You come across as an intelligent player who does want to improve. Unfortunately there indeed will be times when your party pigeonholes you by playing poorly, forcing you to sit on your GCDs in case they all derp horribly and try to wipe you. It's hard to be a shining star as a healer when your party holds you back. At least in alliance raids you can let the bad ones die and keep going.

3. People keep saying that healer DPS is nice, but not required; I would certainly consider it a requirement to DPS whenever reasonable to do so. As a new player I remember getting over my initial hesitation to use CS in parties at all, and again learning how to do it on WHM. It's a process, and it's not possible to be truly good at the healer role in this game until a player learns ALL aspects of it.

[Ashkendor]

That has got to be the most STUPID reason to kick someone that I've heard of in a while. If the dps was so slow that they needed a boost from the healer in Halitali, then what more can be said? You didn't get votekicked so much as the universe saw fit to deliver you from the presence of two morons and a nub tank. Sounds like a get-out-of-fail card to me.

So much this. Seriously, the DPS in there should just be happy they got a healer that isn't a complete moron. The funny part is, as a healer going into low level dungeons you can requeue and get into another instance almost immediately. They either had to rustle up a friend to JIP or they sat there waiting 15 minutes for another healer to join, all because they didn't like that you weren't comfortable DPS'ing. Kudos for shooting yourself in the foot.

With that said, everything up until I'd say Brayflox normal is forgiving enough that the DPS can take a few licks if they pull hate off the tank, so you don't have to worry about the party being terribly fragile. They're made like that so people can learn the basic mechanics of their role (keeping aggro, healing, etc) without repeatedly dying.

[Malevicton]

I ignored the guy and got kicked.

I think this has more to do with it than whether or not you did dps. If you laid out your reasons to your party they might've understood, or at least disagreeably tolerated your decision. Your story sounds reasonable since we're hearing the whole thing, but your party was not privy to your thoughts. All they saw was a healer that they felt wasn't optimizing, and refused to respond to advice. Regardless of how your playing your job, one of the most annoying things you can possibly do is flat out ignore someone.
So I'll just give the same cheesy advice as usual: communicate. It's cheesy because everyone gives that advice for any problem that comes up, but people give that advice so often because usually it works.

[SeraviEdalborez]

When I play the level 50 content right now, I do make full use of Cleric Stance. I am still getting used to using multiple ability bars, my gear is not end-game. In the Morbol beds I use Holy as long as Regen is keeping the tank from dying, against bosses I use Medica II and Regen so I can get my aeros and a few Stone II out.

Lack of DPS due to being unsure about yourself, fine. But it's Halatali Normal. Dungeons pre-Brayflox you can AFK half the run and it's very unlikely anyone will die. It's excessively babying and something anyone should be able to pick up on very quickly.

Reassuring responses to your situation are fine but they really need to take circumstances into consideration. It's paradoxical that you try to throw damage on in 50 dungeons but not a 20 dungeon which is magnitudes easier.

Being new isn't exactly being lazy. It's a lack of knowledge. But as I said before it's not something you improve by just watching bars go up and down. I'm not trying to single you out as "what's wrong with healers", but your circumstances are not unique to you even among "experienced" healers who think they are fulfilling the minimum quota of their job just by making sure nobody dies. It's not a wrong stance but it's certainly not the best one could do.

[Iagainsti]

The OP is talking pre 50 content here. Holy is irrelevant bc he doesn't have access. I love when my FC running mate is "Holy Bombing" my huge trash pulls bc yes, it does speed it up. Pre 50 though? We're talking measly dps here. Anything under WP NM I wouldn't expect a healer to waste the time switching stances and adding damage. I apologize to you, OP, from all of us that you got a party full of Mongrels who kicked you for doing your job.

[SeraviEdalborez]

The OP is talking pre 50 content here. Holy is irrelevant bc he doesn't have access.

Quoting a reply by OP. It is relevant.

Again, why does everyone focus on the toxicity and not how to improve oneself irregardless of it?

[Llyren]

Quoting a reply by OP. It is relevant.

Again, why does everyone focus on the toxicity and not how to improve oneself irregardless of it?

If the environment is that toxic then the game is not worth playing.
If its just a few players they can be ignored.
Improving ones own play does not stop toxicity, Toxic players will find another reason to be toxic. Someone who says something like "stop being worthless and help DPS or you're going to get kicked" is Toxic.

[Moqi]

Anything under WP NM I wouldn't expect a healer to waste the time switching stances and adding damage.

Yeah, it's completely useless and shaves... a minute on the entire run at best. I only DPS because I would be bored otherwise, but my contribution is so insignificant. All this talk about efficiency and min maxing is so laughable when you can throw is Aero and and a couple of Stone.

[raela]

I did daily low roulette on healer for a few months. There were plenty of runs where I was top DPS on a healer.

(if the DPS are competent/decently geared, then yeah, healer output is somewhat low. Then again, low level scholar is essentially an arcanist/summoner without an egi out).

[Cynfael]

Yeah, it's completely useless and shaves... a minute on the entire run at best. I only DPS because I would be bored otherwise, but my contribution is so insignificant. All this talk about efficiency and min maxing is so laughable when you can throw is Aero and and a couple of Stone.

Still, for WHM it's preferable to doing nothing.

For SCH it's very significant since constant SCH damage is worth at least half an extra player (more if compared to mediocre or bad DPS).