Sick of unjust vote dismisses

[Adire]

9 times out of 10 if you are being kicked there is a good reason, people aren't being dickheads for no reason...

You said, 9 times out of 10, if a person is being kicked there's a good reason. That's the same thing as saying 9 kicks out of 10 are justified.

As you can see, my reading skills are fine, thank you.

[Jinko]

We are discussing what you claim to be that 1/10 part of it. Go run along now and bandwagon with the rest of the replies.

I'll run along when I'm good and ready, not when you tell me too

[NinjaTaru72]

i told a tank to stop stopping and to pull things or else I'd pull..

From this alone I feel like you were trying to force a speed run that they didn't want.

Now you need to take a few things Into consideration.

What dungeon was this?
Was the tank or healer new?

Maybe the tank didn't want to overwhelm the healer.
Maybe he isn't super confident in himself and didn't want to get overwhelmed by pulling to much or constantly.

It's nice to take a couple seconds in between pulls to get straight. Not everyone likes speed runs.

Im not insta-labeling you as the bad guy, just saying there are a few things that could have been effected by you threatening to start pulling, which isn't your job, and caused the others. In the party to not be happy.

[Chevrefoil]

...I've never been voted kicked either. Even when making mistakes (which I say 'oops, my bad, I did -xyz-'). You are doing something wrong.

[Adire]

...I've never been voted kicked either. Even when making mistakes (which I say 'oops, my bad, I did -xyz-'). You are doing something wrong.

Guessing you haven't read the responses in the thread? Kaedrian and I have been posting many examples of instances of vote kick abuse that have happened to us. I don't know about the OP, but our point is a kick =/= you did something wrong necessarily. There are jerks out there. They abuse vote kick. Consider yourself lucky, and do not assume everyone who has been kicked deserves it.

[Atlaworks]

Jesus, will you two stop trying to be bullies? We get it, abuse happens sometimes. People lie sometimes too. Did the OP lie or was the OP abused? It could be one, the other, or both even. I know if this thread was a dungeon group I'd kick you. Debating with people of dissenting opinion is one thing, but bullying and browbeating and demeaning them just makes you look like the kicks you got were justified.

On topic, I've been kicked from dungeons since September 2013... I think... four times? Maybe? I don't keep track, and probably three of those four were justified by me not knowing content or having connection issues. That's over WAR, MNK, and BLM, so it can be tanking, but not healing. Does that statistic line up with everyone else? Naw, everyone's different. But I'm willing to bet most people have similar statistics. I usually don't talk at all in pugs, because it's really not what I'm there for and I'm not going to see anyone else there in all likelihood ever again- and I'd say my worst quality is being abrasive in the face of bad behavior, like if the tank refuses to take Sword Oath off in dungeons and I'm forced to tank mobs instead in a caster bathrobe. But I've never been kicked for telling a tank to switch to shield oath so I don't get beat up, or fighting back when they start getting uppity at me for telling them how to do their job so that I don't (inadvertedly, in this case!) have to.

[Adire]

Care to explain how we're bullying? We're discussing a legitimate concern in a civilized way. Also, that would be vote kick abuse if you kicked us. We aren't doing any of the 4 things on the list of kick reasons

Seems like taking abuse and not talking about it, or seeing it and falling in line are exactly what a bully would want from their victim or witnesses, actually.

[Atlaworks]

Care to explain how we're bullying? We're discussing a legitimate concern in a civilized way. Also, that would be vote kick abuse if you kicked us. We aren't doing any of the 4 things on the list of kick reasons

You're harassing people who disagree with you with terms like "are you even reading" and "go run along now and bandwagon", and "what is wrong with you people". I read at least one "I delivered the truth" from the topic too, and saying your stand is anything but an opinion is simple logical fallacy. Hells, everything I'm saying is my own opinion, and I recognize it. That's what makes it a discussion.

So yes, it does actually fall under a kick reason.

[Adire]

You're harassing people who disagree with you with terms like "are you even reading" and "go run along now and bandwagon", and "what is wrong with you people". I read at least one "I delivered the truth" from the topic too, and saying your stand is anything but an opinion is simple logical fallacy. Hells, everything I'm saying is my own opinion, and I recognize it. That's what makes it a discussion.

So yes, it does actually fall under a kick reason.

I never said any of those things. Someone insulted my reading skills actually. I'm simply telling about my experiences, and reminding people that there are people with different ones from their own. Oh and um...disagreements are not harassment.

[Sapphic]

Can't form an unbaised opinion when you only hear, at best, half the story.

And if someone said they will pull more, I'll let em pull, and I'll let em die also. You pull it, you tank it. If they keep doing it, I'll either watch em nerdrage quit or vote kick. With a "You want to set the pace? Go tank."