[dev1017] Materia crafting system & Materia: A Matter of Mystery (08/26/2011)

[Aeyis]

As i said before, while I'd prefer that NM/Dungeon drops be the best gear, Id be willing to compromise and make it equal between max crafted materia gear and NM/Dungeon gear. But so far from what I cas see, not only will NM/Dungeon gear not be the best gear, but the matria enhanced crafted gear seems like it will greatly outclass it. And its not about risk/reward, I find being able to craft/buy your way to success personally offensive. The very idea pretty much disgusts me.

And maybe the problem lies in a lack of clarification from the devs, and if so I have nothing to worry about, and I'll go my merry way getting my high end gear exclusively through NM/Dungeon drops. But if the materia-enhanced crafted gear is THE best gear period, and there is no way to upgrade NM/Dungeon drops in the same or a similar manner, then I have a big problem with that. Like I said, its my personal view-point, its not like I can change my moral/ethical stance on the issue(looks like cheating to me).

You must be one of the score of people not seeing crafters as classes of their own~
We all enjoy different aspects of the game.
We've seen ''NM'' and dungeon loot be the best in most mmos, why not crafting for a change degozaru~

[Amsai]

You must be one of the score of people not seeing crafters as classes of their own~
We all enjoy different aspects of the game.
We've seen ''NM'' and dungeon loot be the best in most mmos, why not crafting for a change degozaru~

Well I did say its my opinion, but for clarification: because I don't like it!!!
Can crafted gear be the best gear in a MMO for once? Sure, why not, I am just asking for clarification and if it is as I fear, then I'll wish you all the best, and leave in search of a new MMO. If the devs give me a clear and firm answer that it will be that way, then I have no argument left. I'll not /rage, I'll just move one. If however, there has been a lack of clarification, or the devs have changed their mind on the idea of crafted gear being THE best gear, then I'd like to know that my little lala can keep pace with the Joneses by getting covered in blood.

[Dreadnought]

i cant wait for all this new crafting in 1.19! the next update cant come soon enough.

[Arcell]

You do know that that's basically how the game is now right? NM/Dungeon drops aren't the best gear in most cases.

Crab Bow HQ is better than Verdant bow.
Jade Hora HQ is better than Verdant Hora.
Engraved Bhuj HQ is better than Canopus Bill.
Banneret Lance HQ is better than Canopus Guisarme.

Why is it that people still going after the dungeon drops in light of this? Because it's safe and to a degree guaranteed. The differences aren't that great unless we're talking +3s but either way they're still technically better.

[Amsai]

You do know that that's basically how the game is now right? NM/Dungeon drops aren't the best gear in most cases.

Crab Bow HQ is better than Verdant bow.
Jade Hora HQ is better than Verdant Hora.
Engraved Bhuj HQ is better than Canopus Bill.
Banneret Lance HQ is better than Canopus Guisarme.

Why is it that people still going after the dungeon drops in light of this? Because it's safe and to a degree guaranteed. The differences aren't that great unless we're talking +3s but either way they're still technically better.

I completely agree with you. However, I do hope for more challenging Dungeons/NMs in the future that would drop better gear that is either on par with maxed materia gear or U/U but still materia upgradeable itself. If I cant have at least this, then I might as well stop playing, because I'll be damned if I buy/craft my way to the best gear.

[Felis]

I think the best would be NM Gear = Craftet HQ Gear with 4 Materia+4
If you have the time and luck, you can try the crafted HQ gear with the 5 best materia or safe some time and nerves and farm some NM.
NQ gear + materia = casual
NM/Dungeon gear = average (NM respawn time is very short and in dungeons you only need to open the chests)
HQ gear + materia = hardcore

[Amsai]

I think the best would be NM Gear = Craftet HQ Gear with 4 Materia+4
If you have the time and luck, you can try the crafted HQ gear with the 5 best materia or safe some time and nerves and farm some NM.
NQ gear + materia = casual
NM/Dungeon gear = average (NM respawn time is very short and in dungeons you only need to open the chests)
HQ gear + materia = hardcore

I like everything you said except that NM/Dungeon gear = average. Maybe have some that are average and some that are casual. But what I would want is Hardcore NM/Dungeons that are much much harder dungeons with super rare drop rates (below 5%).

[Arcell]

I like everything you said except that NM/Dungeon gear = average. Maybe have some that are average and some that are casual. But what I would want is Hardcore NM/Dungeons that are much much harder dungeons with super rare drop rates (below 5%).

Honestly if that's what you want, you may want to pack your bags now. This was always advertised and is going in the direction of a more casual MMO than that.

[Amsai]

Honestly if that's what you want, you may want to pack your bags now. This was always advertised and is going in the direction of a more casual MMO than that.

Unfortunately for me, you might be right in that I need to go elsewhere. However, I completely disagree that anything in this game is casual beyond leves.

[Alcide]

What I'd like to know is if the action of attaching materia will require some skill, some kind of minigame.
As far as we know now it seems it will just be luck based (or at least that's the feeling I'm getting) but Yoshi is talking about this system as something really hard and challenging...

Well you can't say a luck based upgrade system is hard, it's not like you're gonna put skills in it, just spend time and money, so I'd rather call it frustrating >.> I really hope they can come up with a system that at least makes me have a part in the attachment that is not just "press the attach button", I mean I want to blame myself for breaking the gear I spent effort creating, just like when I use that last touch up at 20 durability to make the +2 turn into +3 cause I'm greedy, not a random variable...