[dev1017] Materia crafting system & Materia: A Matter of Mystery (08/26/2011)

[Perrin_Aybarra]

People hate risk in games. They just want everything handed down to them with no effort involved. If most mouth breathers got their way the system would be dumbed down to the point where there's no quests to get started, you can desynth equipment into materia and then go trade 5 bits of materia to an NPC along with an item and get your 5 slotted gear.

I've bitched quite a lot about the other crafting changes but this whole materia system is made of win. It even makes sense now why items will be easier to produce. I'm still against removing training books and taking quality out of the HQ equation however. But considering how many HQ crab bows I'll be blowing up for that crab bow +5 materia I'll be glad that each hard earned HQ coral equates to an HQ bow.

Well said, and this is why it's usually best to wait until we have all the info before critizising something.

The training books are being temporarily removed out of the crafting equations but they are not going away completely, they will have their uses later so you can consider that you will be ready for it if you bought them already.

Also it's not really taking the quality out of the equation for a HQ item, it's rather removing the luck factor and RGN out when trying to HQ something. You spent time gathering HQ mats? then you should get the HQ craft. Plus like you said, they need to do that if we are going to break lots of them trying to pack them with materias.

[Sorel]

Many possibilities come to mind with this new Materia System, the revised HQ system, and the abolishment of accessory slot costs.

• Low Cost / Low Risk Loadout: NQ Equipment Set w/Tier 1 Materia on each piece.
• High Cost / Low Risk Loadout: HQ Equipment Set w/Tier 4 Materia on each piece.
• Low Cost / High Risk Loadout: NQ Equipment Set w/Multiple Tier 1 Materia on each piece.
• High Cost / High Risk Loadout: HQ Equipment Set w/Multiple Tier 4 Materia on each piece.

... and of course the near infinite degrees of variation in between.

[Holyomen]

I keep reading that 5 materia can be attached to one piece of gear.

Does that mean you can attach a STR, VIT, DEX, MND, and INT materia to your weapon?
Does that also mean you can attach 5 different STR materia to your weapon as well?

[Perrin_Aybarra]

I keep reading that 5 materia can be attached to one piece of gear.

Does that mean you can attach a STR, VIT, DEX, MND, and INT materia to your weapon?
Does that also mean you can attach 5 different STR materia to your weapon as well?

There will be more than 5 types of materias available is that is your first question and from what I understand yes, you could have 5 STR+X in one gear.

[Sorel]

There will be more than 5 types of materias available is that is your first question and from what I understand yes, you could have 5 STR+X in one gear.

Yes, but the risks will be incredible. Even if the success rate is a flat 50% for adding Materia 2-5, you still have to do 4 times in a row. Good luck with that.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Yes, but the risks will be incredible. Even if the success rate is a flat 50% for adding Materia 2-5, you still have to do 4 times in a row. Good luck with that.

oh yeah thats for sure ^^ but it's still allowed by the system to do so.

[Holyomen]

There will be more than 5 types of materias available is that is your first question and from what I understand yes, you could have 5 STR+X in one gear.

That scares me.

So you could actually attach 5 accuracy materia to every piece of gear you have.
That could be like 50 accuracy ups total.
How much of a difference would that make, and where does that leave the person who doesn't put any accuracy materia on?


I have this feeling that once they do away with Physical Levels and adjust stats, everyone is going to be much weaker than they were before 1.19, until they get fully materia'd out.

[Holyomen]

There will be more than 5 types of materias available is that is your first question and from what I understand yes, you could have 5 STR+X in one gear.

Wait, are we talking about 5 different grades of materia or being able to put 5 materia on one piece of gear?

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Wait, are we talking about 5 different grades of materia or being able to put 5 materia on one piece of gear?

5 materias in one single piece of gears is what you will be able to do.

There will be 4 tiers of materias, which I guess will require a certain gear level to attach to (like 4th tier will be for gears level 40 to 50)

To answer your question on the other post, yes in theory if they have a +5 accuracy materia, you'll be able to put 5 of that materia in every gear applicable, ending up with a massive accuracy bonus, but the risk is VERY high for attaching 5 materias so it might take a long while and a lot of time/money to achieve that.

Also, while getting a HUGE accuracy boost, you are not boosting anything else like STR, VIT, Magic resist, crit and w/e other materia that could be good for your class. So someone with over the top accuracy might not be better than someone with varied augments ^^

[Holyomen]

5 materias in one single piece of gears is what you will be able to do.

There will be 4 tiers of materias, which I guess will require a certain gear level to attach to (like 4th tier will be for gears level 40 to 50)

To answer your question on the other post, yes in theory if they have a +5 accuracy materia, you'll be able to put 5 of that materia in every gear applicable, ending up with a massive accuracy bonus, but the risk is VERY high for attaching 5 materias so it might take a long while and a lot of time/money to achieve that.

Also, while getting a HUGE accuracy boost, you are not boosting anything else like STR, VIT, Magic resist, crit and w/e other materia that could be good for your class. So someone with over the top accuracy might not be better than someone with varied augments ^^

So getting grade IV Materia on your gear is the easy part, just need high level gear.
But getting multi-materia gear is what will be tricky.
Gotcha.