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    KodiHivaer's Avatar
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    Krosa Kaine
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    [GM Response] Would this be considered "Cheating"?

    So there are players that are using an app to predict numbers in the mini cactpot games and getting 1k-10k MGP every time by using the results from it, there's several variations of it on reddit (which I won't link) and It frazzles my mind on how people just can't do these games for "fun" and has to resort to an app doing the work for them.

    If any GM or someone could respond would this be considered cheating by running an app to give an advantage over others in the cactpot games?
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    Utsuho Reiuji
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    There is literally no way for you or anyone else to provide sufficient evidence that someone was using these programs in the first place (at least, not under Square Enix's definitions). In addition, it's not cheating, it's literally the same thing as a (albiet, highly specialized and already set up to do the hard work for you) calculator. Calculators aren't cheating under any sense of the word, and it kind of boggles my mind as to why you would think it would be cheating.
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    The only way they would be cheating is if reading memory and providing a full picture of all the numbers. If it's just predicting the various possible combinations it's the same as you are doing by using your brain. Or do you just randomly scratch stuff? I mean it's like ok I'm looking for a 6... I'll check this spot... a 9... ok all lines with that are a non option then. Ow a 1 here's potential let's look at one more - ahh that line won't work due to that nine, and that 5 that was already opened removes that line... so that leaves these 2... nope this one has a 7 behind it... let's go with the other one then...

    I mean if you are too lazy to use your brain and rely on an app to do those perdictions for you then I feel pity for you. It's fun trying to figure it out.
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    Larek Darkholme
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    not cheating
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    Some people like a nice long grind, others like the past of least resistance. I can't see myself using such an app (Really untrusting of all the programs out there) but I can totally get why others would.
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    Kalandros Shadowsun
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    Its just a probability calculator and honestly, its pure simple logic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teppie View Post
    Some people like a nice long grind, others like the past of least resistance. I can't see myself using such an app (Really untrusting of all the programs out there) but I can totally get why others would.
    Because they suck in calculating? ^^

    also, math =/= grind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teppie View Post
    Some people like a nice long grind, others like the past of least resistance. I can't see myself using such an app (Really untrusting of all the programs out there) but I can totally get why others would.
    There is a web version. Don't have to download a thing so it won't matter if you trust it or not. No risk of anything happening.
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    I wasn't paying attention and randomly ended up picking 3 numbers that lined up diagonally for one of the nicer MGP prizes today (and I'm ashamed I had to actually do finger-math to add it. . .). Assuming there are no repeat numbers on the 3x3, I think (someone smarter than I) could easily figure it out.
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    really any1 who needs to use an app for mini catpot mustnt be the brightest lightbulb in the pack... its easy to figure out if you can win or not after 3 simple clicks lolz
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