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    Lissandra's Avatar
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    Lissandra Heartwine
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    I have a question. Say if I buy a pedigree 2 covering and then am about to commence breeding and seeing the crappy stats of one of the parents (ex: covering bird is male, and his father has crappy stats), can I cancel the breeding, toss the covering, buy another and see another set of randomized star ratings from the father's side?

    I can't test this myself yet since my bird is not rank 40.
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    YakushiHinata's Avatar
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    Eldyria Valdori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lissandra View Post
    I have a question. Say if I buy a pedigree 2 covering and then am about to commence breeding and seeing the crappy stats of one of the parents (ex: covering bird is male, and his father has crappy stats), can I cancel the breeding, toss the covering, buy another and see another set of randomized star ratings from the father's side?

    I can't test this myself yet since my bird is not rank 40.
    Yes I belive you can, if you have the MGP to spare to keep rebuying.
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    Pande Monium
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    Parents:



    Child:



    You can check the child, it has 2 star in mother all stats because theirs grand parents have 2 stars (first chocobo).

    The father has 4 - 3 - 3 - 4 -2 because theirs grandparents have 4 -3 - 3(4)* - 4 - 2(3)*

    Into brackets are maxed stats I could get.

    Will check "Max Speed" stat:

    we have Father(4 - 4) - Mother (2 - 2): It's a 50% to get 4 or 2 stars. I got 2

    "Stamina" stat: Father(4 - 4) - Mother (2 - 2): same percent and i got 4 star.

    Now, whe will think into next breeding.
    My new chocobo's parents have 2(4) - 2(3) - 2(3) - 2(4) - 2. 2 stars are inherit for my first chocobo.
    I'll use my first covering for the example
    Covering: 4 -3 - 3(4)* - 4 - 2(3)*
    Actual Parents: 2(4) - 2(3) - 2(3) - 2(4) - 2

    Max Speed: 75% to get 4 stars and 25% to get only 2
    Acceleration: 75% to get 3 stars and 25% to get 2 stars.
    Endurance: 50% to get 3 stars, and 25% to get 2 or 4 stars.
    Stamina: 75% to get 4 stars and 25% to get 2 stars
    Cunning: 75% to get 2 stars and 25% to get 3 stars.

    In a good match i will get 4 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 2. So my next covering must cover a 4 stars on cunning because the objetive in each breeding is max all the stats.

    Percents are not exactly, because you could get 3 stars where you should get 2 or 4 stars. but will guide you to try max stats.
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    Last edited by rappa; 02-28-2015 at 08:57 PM.

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    U'tyada Tia
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    The resulting chocobo is not based on the stats of the previous stats that the retired parent has, it's dependent on the retired parents parent, so if you had a chocobo with parents that had 4-1-2-3-2 and 2-2-2-2-2 and the chocobo ended up was 4-2-2-3-2 there's still a chance that the offspring of that chocobo gets the 1 from it's grandparent, the 1 is just a recessive gene that has a chance to appear. When I bred my pedigree 2 with 4-2-2-2-2 it showed up that it had 2-3-2-2-2 as the parent in the child's pedigree window. The ped 2 chocobo had a parent with 4-3-2-1-2 and the normal 2-2-2-2-2 chocobo as parents.
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    Moon Kibbles
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    Explanation 1

    What is known about your Chocobo: Precise stats. Write it down before you retire your Chocobo because once you retire it, you have only your parents' stats to go by.

    What is known about your Partner Chocobo (That you bought from the NPC): Its parents' stats. Hence, you would have to make an educated guess as to what exactly is the Partner's current stats. It is unknown but can be somewhat predicted. From there then you can estimate what sort of fledgeling you'll get.

    Take a good look at Rappa's (3 posts above mine) picture. In his case, the Pedigree 9 cover was actually a 4, 3, 3, 4, 2. But at that point in time before the fledgling was born, all you can go with is the parents' stats. Luckily for Rappa it's quite straightforward since the Pedigree 9 partner's parents have pretty much the same stats.

    IF his Pedigree 9 partner's parents had wildly different stats, i.e. Male had 1,1,1,1 Female had 4,4,4,4. Then the actual cover's stats could be 1,4,1,4 or 4,4,4,4 or 1,1,1,1 or whatever combination available. You wouldn't know with a high degree of certainty whether it's actually good or not. It would be an absolute gamble to mate with your chocobo.

    Explanation 2 (Which is more accurate come to think of it)

    Same as Explanation 1 but your retired Chocobo is taken out of the equation. All that matters is the parents' stats i.e. on the card. Upon breeding, the game will just use those stats and generate an offspring (your fledgling's parents). From these offspring they'll then generate your fledgling's stats. Your retired Chocobo only contributed its hereditary ability. This pretty much explains everything.

    TL,DR: Upon breeding, the game takes the Partner's Father+Mother's stats and makes an invisible offspring. The game takes your retired Chocobo's Father/Mother's stats and makes an invisible offspring (stats which will probably be different from your retired Chocobo). Game takes these two invisible offspring and mates them, TADA your fledgling is produced.

    So was your retired Chocobo's stats used at all in determining your fledgling's stats? No. Only the ability has the potential to be passed on.

    Mystery Solved!!!
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    Last edited by Aphel; 03-01-2015 at 03:50 AM.

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    Mikagaru Rashea
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    I Have a 5th generation chocobo being Covered at the moment.
    The pedegree for each random g-9 is simple to check if you Buy Multiple G-9 coverings then you Head to Bentbranch all the ??? will be given precise stats that you can look up later.
    Colors are just a random if there are Multiple Colors its either 1 or a Mix between the 2
    2 of the same Useally result in the same.
    The Pedigree For each Choco is that of the grand Parents but, the 2 diferent stars sytems for each half is decided at random between Grandpa Grandma (dads side) and moms side seperatly.
    4*3*1*2*2* dad 4*2*4*2*1* the combination could be any combination (variation) of those so this one could be 4*2*4*2*1*
    thats the Fathers Grandparents Pedigree, Parents only decide Abillitys as far as ive been able to tell.
    As Example 4* 2* 1* 3* 4* dad 1*3*2*1*4* mom you could end up with 1 half of the pedigree any random combination of those, Ive had multiple diferent outcomes in pedigrees Even using the same 2 Chocobos. but lets say that combination is 2*3*1*2*4*. The above combinations are The resulting chocobo that you take to Chocobo trainer And then of those combinations 2*3*1*2*4* dads side moms side 4*2*4*2*1* , you can end up with variations even though 1 side had all 4* cunning if even 1 has a lower value you can end up stuck with 1* cunning
    Hope i am making sence
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    Last edited by Mikagaru; 03-01-2015 at 03:11 AM.

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    I just skimmed through your guide to see if I could find the answer to my question but couldn't find it.
    So sorry if it actually is in the text.

    Two questions:
    When I do breed my first chocobo, is it worth it to buy a 9grade chocobo or should I buy a chocobo with lesser grade and save the points for next breeding?

    If I remove my current chocobos ability will he aquire a new one by ranking up or will it be gone forever and I wont get a new one unless I buy it?
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    Its not my guide but The first 1. It is likely that the G-9 covering will increase the overall star rating, so up to you i did personally buy the G-9,

    The 2nd 1 if you unlearn the acquired abillity then he will learn a new abillity the next time it ranks Up.
    i think the higher the Rank of the Chocobo the greater chance for a better Abillity, I tried to get Dash on 1 of mine cause cover didnt keep dash I got Dash II at rank 25 (4th generation)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikagaru View Post
    Its not my guide but The first 1. It is likely that the G-9 covering will increase the overall star rating, so up to you i did personally buy the G-9,

    The 2nd 1 if you unlearn the acquired abillity then he will learn a new abillity the next time it ranks Up.
    i think the higher the Rank of the Chocobo the greater chance for a better Abillity, I tried to get Dash on 1 of mine cause cover didnt keep dash I got Dash II at rank 25 (4th generation)
    Thanks! I will most likely get a rank 9 chocobo covering, and I'll remove my silly ability that is too situational.
    I have one that gives me some stamina if someone uses bachus water on me but I rarely get to use it
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    Fealow Vita
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    I don't think there is huge benefit to only using G-9 coverings unless you have a pedigree 9 chocobo otherwise there would be no reason to have different graded coverings without there being a negative effect from mixing and matching them.
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