Chocobo breeding 101:

[YakushiHinata]

Hey there, good info so far so thank you it helps alot
Sorry if I've missed this part but could someone explain this one for me;

http://i.imgur.com/QqA1oYw.png

The chocobo far left (Chaos II) is one I raised and bred from G1 + another G1 bird I raised to 40 and that was the outcome, no mix of star since both parents had 2 star in everything.
The one on right just named "Chocobo" is one I bought with MGP as a breeding partner, but what bothers me is this.
The stars you see is the stars the parents of those birds had, not their current stars, so why does mating two like that give the baby stars of its grandparents so to say?

[Fealow]

yeah im worried about that cause if get lucky with n really uncommon colour n lose it on the next breeding attempt etc lol

What exactly is an uncommon colour? This is not Final Fantasy 7 XD

Colour choice is random therefor all colours are of equal rarity/commonality.

[Fealow]

Hey there, good info so far so thank you it helps alot
Sorry if I've missed this part but could someone explain this one for me;

http://i.imgur.com/QqA1oYw.png

The chocobo far left (Chaos II) is one I raised and bred from G1 + another G1 bird I raised to 40 and that was the outcome, no mix of star since both parents had 2 star in everything.
The one on right just named "Chocobo" is one I bought with MGP as a breeding partner, but what bothers me is this.
The stars you see is the stars the parents of those birds had, not their current stars, so why does mating two like that give the baby stars of its grandparents so to say?

This is a good question, I think I overlooked that a covering chocobo does not actually show you its own star ratings, but only it's parentage ratings. Also that breeding screwed you over pretty hard given the possible star rating you could have gotten! same thing happened to me with my first breeding.

Because your covering chocobo is female it might be possible that only its female parentage is considered which is the parentage star rating that your pedigree 3 chocobo has. You can quite clearly see that the male parentage has not even been taken into account with G2-F.

[YakushiHinata]

Because your covering chocobo is female it might be possible that only its female parentage is considered which is the parentage star rating that your pedigree chocobo has. You can quite clearly see that the male parentage has not even been taken into account with G2-F.

That is what I started to think aswell, You have to be lucky to get a male with good stars vs female with same good mix, get two babies with a good mix and raise both to 40. That gives you 10 chances to breed a good mixed one.
This is becoming more complicated than I thought but fun!

Edit: Unless it is 100% that the baby will keep the mix of the father's father? and same with mother's mother..

[Lissandra]

I have a question. Say if I buy a pedigree 2 covering and then am about to commence breeding and seeing the crappy stats of one of the parents (ex: covering bird is male, and his father has crappy stats), can I cancel the breeding, toss the covering, buy another and see another set of randomized star ratings from the father's side?

I can't test this myself yet since my bird is not rank 40.

[YakushiHinata]

I have a question. Say if I buy a pedigree 2 covering and then am about to commence breeding and seeing the crappy stats of one of the parents (ex: covering bird is male, and his father has crappy stats), can I cancel the breeding, toss the covering, buy another and see another set of randomized star ratings from the father's side?

I can't test this myself yet since my bird is not rank 40.

Yes I belive you can, if you have the MGP to spare to keep rebuying.

[rappa]

Parents:



Child:



You can check the child, it has 2 star in mother all stats because theirs grand parents have 2 stars (first chocobo).

The father has 4 - 3 - 3 - 4 -2 because theirs grandparents have 4 -3 - 3(4)* - 4 - 2(3)*

Into brackets are maxed stats I could get.

Will check "Max Speed" stat:

we have Father(4 - 4) - Mother (2 - 2): It's a 50% to get 4 or 2 stars. I got 2

"Stamina" stat: Father(4 - 4) - Mother (2 - 2): same percent and i got 4 star.

Now, whe will think into next breeding.
My new chocobo's parents have 2(4) - 2(3) - 2(3) - 2(4) - 2. 2 stars are inherit for my first chocobo.
I'll use my first covering for the example
Covering: 4 -3 - 3(4)* - 4 - 2(3)*
Actual Parents: 2(4) - 2(3) - 2(3) - 2(4) - 2

Max Speed: 75% to get 4 stars and 25% to get only 2
Acceleration: 75% to get 3 stars and 25% to get 2 stars.
Endurance: 50% to get 3 stars, and 25% to get 2 or 4 stars.
Stamina: 75% to get 4 stars and 25% to get 2 stars
Cunning: 75% to get 2 stars and 25% to get 3 stars.

In a good match i will get 4 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 2. So my next covering must cover a 4 stars on cunning because the objetive in each breeding is max all the stats.

Percents are not exactly, because you could get 3 stars where you should get 2 or 4 stars. but will guide you to try max stats.

[Spawnie]

What exactly is an uncommon colour? This is not Final Fantasy 7 XD

Colour choice is random therefor all colours are of equal rarity/commonality.

lol surely some colours are gonna be rarer then others XD

[Krindor]

The resulting chocobo is not based on the stats of the previous stats that the retired parent has, it's dependent on the retired parents parent, so if you had a chocobo with parents that had 4-1-2-3-2 and 2-2-2-2-2 and the chocobo ended up was 4-2-2-3-2 there's still a chance that the offspring of that chocobo gets the 1 from it's grandparent, the 1 is just a recessive gene that has a chance to appear. When I bred my pedigree 2 with 4-2-2-2-2 it showed up that it had 2-3-2-2-2 as the parent in the child's pedigree window. The ped 2 chocobo had a parent with 4-3-2-1-2 and the normal 2-2-2-2-2 chocobo as parents.

[Aphel]

Explanation 1

What is known about your Chocobo: Precise stats. Write it down before you retire your Chocobo because once you retire it, you have only your parents' stats to go by.

What is known about your Partner Chocobo (That you bought from the NPC): Its parents' stats. Hence, you would have to make an educated guess as to what exactly is the Partner's current stats. It is unknown but can be somewhat predicted. From there then you can estimate what sort of fledgeling you'll get.

Take a good look at Rappa's (3 posts above mine) picture. In his case, the Pedigree 9 cover was actually a 4, 3, 3, 4, 2. But at that point in time before the fledgling was born, all you can go with is the parents' stats. Luckily for Rappa it's quite straightforward since the Pedigree 9 partner's parents have pretty much the same stats.

IF his Pedigree 9 partner's parents had wildly different stats, i.e. Male had 1,1,1,1 Female had 4,4,4,4. Then the actual cover's stats could be 1,4,1,4 or 4,4,4,4 or 1,1,1,1 or whatever combination available. You wouldn't know with a high degree of certainty whether it's actually good or not. It would be an absolute gamble to mate with your chocobo.

Explanation 2 (Which is more accurate come to think of it)

Same as Explanation 1 but your retired Chocobo is taken out of the equation. All that matters is the parents' stats i.e. on the card. Upon breeding, the game will just use those stats and generate an offspring (your fledgling's parents). From these offspring they'll then generate your fledgling's stats. Your retired Chocobo only contributed its hereditary ability. This pretty much explains everything.

TL,DR: Upon breeding, the game takes the Partner's Father+Mother's stats and makes an invisible offspring. The game takes your retired Chocobo's Father/Mother's stats and makes an invisible offspring (stats which will probably be different from your retired Chocobo). Game takes these two invisible offspring and mates them, TADA your fledgling is produced.

So was your retired Chocobo's stats used at all in determining your fledgling's stats? No. Only the ability has the potential to be passed on.

Mystery Solved!!!