Relic in Heavensward

[Tiva]

I've heard rumors about this, I'm wondering if anyone can link to information about it...

Is the relic quest going to continue in the expansion? I always thought they'd never do that but it seems they might? Where is the information about this?

If it continues will it be from the last step and just continue to increase item level?

If they really like this type of quest line I'd much rather they add an entirely new quest with a new weapon not related to the current relic. This would make it easier for new players, returning players, or anyone that wants to change class in the expansion. :X Please don't be mad at me, I know all you who've grinded this are very defensive of it. I realize it was a lot of work, but it's just my opinion.

[Alahra]

I don't personally have a source for this, as I've only heard it through hearsay, but at some point, I've been told that Yoshi stated that current Relics would be used for something in the expansion. That might just be some sort of title or for glamour possibilities, though. If they do in fact continue the questline in Heavensward, I imagine all present steps would be greatly simplified and shortened as much as possible.

[Xenosan]

I don't have a source beyond what I have heard in LS chatter.

There will be a new 'relic' weapon available in Heavenward. The current Zeta is the last form of the zodiac weapon arc (or there is 1 more upgrade for it, this discussion was before this week's patch, so not sure if the 'one more upgrade' refers to Zeta phase or not).

They said those who have completed their zodiacs would not be forgotten, and given a 'head's start' in the new relic weapon progression.

Wish I had the source on this, as the LS chat we were having pple sounding like they were reading it directly from a dev note or letter. I think there is something floating around on this.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Whatever it ends up being, I just hope it's not a super-grindy, gil-bought super weapon that outdoes everything. I mean, yes, the Relic must and WILL be good, but please no more easy routes to best weapons. Please note, I'm not saying "make everyone clear Alexander Hard Mode!", but I just disagree with the idea that people can avoid almost any and all penultimate challenges in the game and get a weapon on par with/better than raid weapons. Or worse, spam Garuda HM for a day or two and attain a weapon others might have braved Final Coil for weeks for.

[Xenosan]

I think their logic is such that with new zones - including new leveling methods/areas said zones provide, 3 new jobs, and (SE hopes)the wave of new subscribers that it doesn't make sense to have players reaching 50 go back and do old content for a weapon starting at ilvl80.

I wonder will drk/mch/ast even have a zodiac weapon? (Assuming there is indeed a new relic weapon quest arc being introduced).

If 3.0 is a substantial change from 2.0 as they claim it will be, keeping relic involve the large grind of 2.x content seems a bit of a contradiction.

[JonBigwood]

All is guessing, but if the expansion adds new content without eliminating previous one, the relic quest will probably exist, only made quicker on the last steps that are the only ones that are not relatively quick to do. The relic weapon, at least the first part, is nearly part of the main story since the job quests speak about it, it drives you to do the HM primals and some dungeons too.

I suppose the ones who have the last step of the relic will have some advantage for the new weapon quest in Heavensward, if it is not required for it. The relic will probably be quite quick to do, but it's playable content, why eliminate it?

Up to now there has been always a grindy but not very difficult way to get a good weapon (relic), and they also have added other ways to get good weapons (the ilvl110 ones are fine for all content except maybe the hardest now), and the best one is the drop of the hardest raid. Usually people who do that hardest raid when it is new content have the latest upgrade of the relic or are working on it.

Probably there will be a similar quest, it's like a tradition, and there will be other ways to get good weapons apart from the also traditional drop of the last hardest instance. As the game advances, there are more and more options.

[CheshirePuss]

Whatever it ends up being, I just hope it's not a super-grindy, gil-bought super weapon that outdoes everything. I mean, yes, the Relic must and WILL be good, but please no more easy routes to best weapons. Please note, I'm not saying "make everyone clear Alexander Hard Mode!", but I just disagree with the idea that people can avoid almost any and all penultimate challenges in the game and get a weapon on par with/better than raid weapons. Or worse, spam Garuda HM for a day or two and attain a weapon others might have braved Final Coil for weeks for.

Which has been its method since all updates beyond mythos, when it use to be the original top tier allagan. I wouldn't bring myself to be so distraught about it so early though, since keep in mind, this expansion does include a rise in level cap. I don't believe they'd follow such an identical formula with that in mind, since that expansion will give them a great deal more room to work with.

[BristolRuss]

I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that the Relic will continue in patch 3.1. So there won't be a next step when Heavensward launches, but it will continue in the first update patch. Whether it's a continuation of the current relic or a new one from scratch is another issue. But when you get your Zeta it does tell you that the Zodiac Saga is over.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I originally liked the Relic quest. The initial finding and restoring of it, and even facing down the (at the time) biggest, non-raiding challenges of the game felt more involved, and better thought out. Maybe it wasn't all that long or difficult for the most part, but it certainly wasn't the bitter pill that Atma and several other steps of the Zodiac saga were. Even the conversion joke when you go to turn it into its Zodiac form was in rather bad taste.

So for that, I'd welcome a new relic quest, but if it winds up anything like the previous one, I'll wash my hands of it in a heartbeat. I threw out 4 Zenith relics yesterday and felt nothing for it.

[Xenosan]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...erview_for_25/

Old interview, but they do touch on Zodiac in 3.0 (or their feelings on it at that point in time).

Yoshi-P's statement was translated from Japanese in the comments of the post.

Edit: Sounds like either a new relic quest arc, OR zodiac progression, but those not at the final phase (zeta) will be given an upgrade that puts them at the same progression as the Zodiac holders. (since lvl cap is going up to 60, it's a new grind no matter how you slice it)

Edit 2: better translation here: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/124...-2.5?p=6330808