Is this classed as harassment?

[Stupiduglytaru]

Hey all,
Well not sure really what to do with this, recently had someone relentlessly undercutting me. Now tbh i have no issue with undercutting unless your dropping below cost to make thats just bad business sense, however i have noticed within a two minute period of placing an item for sell his is then adjusted.

I had this market for about 2 weeks, this is a new face to the scene. Myself personally would never stick by the mb constantly adjusting prices enabling others to have their items sold too.

I started checking out this persons location regularly, each time price was adjusted he was in a zone with no bells. Which leaves me to two conclusions, a second char stationed at the mb or hacking

Its beginning to annoy me now, i know hes watching me as soon as i log in he enters his retainer. Everytime i log in i can see this, hes now also beginning to sell and uncut me on other items i craft

[Aethaeryn]

Sounds like a douchecanoe, but he can list things for whatever price he wants.

[Dillia]

I am going to go ahead and say no, not harassment. At least not from what you have said so far. If this is a new crafter for your market, of course he will try to get his share and if he feels that he can see the product for less and still make a profit, that is not an attack on you personaly. Now if he started sending you tells when his items sold and yours did not, then that would be harassment, but not just because someone else spends more effort making his prices the lowest.

Now if you really wanted to push him out of the market, drop your prices to equal the cost of materials for those crafts, that will make it unprofitable for other crafters to make those items. If you can keep it up and force this new player out of your market then you can raise your prices back up once you are alone on the boards.

[NyarukoW]

Is Walmart harassing Target by lowering their prices all the time?

Depends on your definition of "harass"....

But as for in game definition for harassment, competing on price on the MB, that is fair game. Here is a tip for you. When the price is low, by them out and then resell for profit at the price you like. Remember buy low, sell high. Flippers love to find opportunities like that.

[NinjaTaru72]

No. It's not harassment. Sounds liem He's just trying to outsell you and push you out of the market. No rules whatsoever one how much you have to sell things for or how often you can change your price. Either you outlast him and he finds a different market, or you move on to a new market. Honestly what you could do is, if he's undercutting you enough. Push him into dropping his prices as low as you can them buy him out and out it back up at your price. That removes him, and you gain a good profit off of him trying to push you out.

[Pterois]

this post reeks of greed and paranoia. None of this is harassment, PLUS you're stalking the guy and checking the MB just as much as he is now lol... You wanna know my secret to beating under-cutters (that has worked btw)???

STOP ADJUSTING YOUR PRICES!!!! please please please realize that there is a thing called tax... sure you are not at the tippy top of the list but your product IS STILL CHEAPER because there is no tax on your county at that moment. (and people do pay attention to that stuff) If you were really here to make gil then you would have realized that a long time ago... and not let yourself be turn into the very thing your complaining about. Find a happy sitting point for your product and if he/she undercuts you by crazy amounts then let his sell because time vs. money and your here for the money... not a quick sell.

[Darra]

Is Walmart harassing Target by lowering their prices all the time?

Depends on your definition of "harass"....

But as for in game definition for harassment, competing on price on the MB, that is fair game. Here is a tip for you. When the price is low, by them out and then resell for profit at the price you like. Remember buy low, sell high. Flippers love to find opportunities like that.

This doesn't work on a lot of items, they will just make a new one and under cut you more. It only works on very fast selling items.

[Lethallin]

If he sells something below cost, buy it and resell it for a profit. He can't sell something below cost forever, and you can profit from it by getting that item cheaper then you can make it.

[Krazymagic]

No this isnt harassment. I wouldnt have even made a thread about it. If he lists for really low prices then buy the product out yourself and immediately re list it. In addition to crafting and other income means Ive always worked the AH in every MMO ive played. I used to do it in FFXI as well. If venemous claws were selling for 7 million gil and someone listed for 6 million I would buy it and re list it. Even at 6.5m I would buy it. I did this with all sorts of items and made millions just playing the AH. The economy in XIV is different but you can still use these tactics if someone undercuts you substantially.

Its a free market, people can sell what they want for what they want.

[Stupiduglytaru]

Like i mentioned, been 2 weeks so far and its virtually impossible to sell my items or a matter of fact anyone else trying from 5pm to 2am ST (goes on allday but that's when im on.
Whenever i log on, check retainer i see my items still there and his retainer nowhere to be seen. Within a minute recheck, his items are back up.
I have no issue with undercutting at all, but i would like to know how someone knows within 2mins of my adjustment that this is happened when they are not in a zone capable of checking in the first place.
I could clear 2mil a day easily, logging in placing items then going about my daily business but now im forced to check retainer whenever i can.
Each item he sells is instantly resupplied, the profit has been destroyed by him. Easy 100k per item is now around 5-20k
Now im starting to see him on all my other bread and butter items, from different crafts i might add.