[dev1026] Changes to Claiming and Engaging Enemies

[Commat]

Can someone help me out? I've read through most of this topic and I can't figure out why people are against the new claiming system besides fears over power leveling(which happens in every MMO). A detailed list of problems would help if someone has the time.

The new system reads solid to me. I mean, we are going from a system where I get nothing for killing stuff because I am killing other stuff, to a system where I get rewarded for killing as many stuffs as I want. Sounds like an upgrade, right?

[Murugan]

Can someone help me out? I've read through most of this topic and I can't figure out why people are against the new claiming system besides fears over power leveling(which happens in every MMO). A detailed list of problems would help if someone has the time.

The new system reads solid to me. I mean, we are going from a system where I get nothing for killing stuff because I am killing other stuff, to a system where I get rewarded for killing as many stuffs as I want. Sounds like an upgrade, right?

Well you see Chicken Little was hit on the head by an acorn, and being only a chick she is convinced this means the sky is falling. So she embarks on a journey to warn everyone about how serious this problem is. Eventually she comes across a fox who tells her that the only way she can save herself and her new friends (who have jumped on the sky is falling bandwagon) is to come into his cave. I don't want to spoil the rest of the story.

[Davorok]

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Why the claiming system will be removed
When considering large scale PvE content involving multiple parties and PvP between large numbers of players...

Securing reward rights
Up next is the decision on the right to obtain rewards.
This regards who has the right to obtain experience points, dropped items, and quest completion flags when multiple parties (including solo players) attack the same monster.

This is the only part that concerns me. I am imagining an FFXI Campaign and/or Beseiged type large scale PvE event where multiple parties and soloers are ganging up on Garlean Machina in order to "win" the event. If I gain nothing by helping someone else defeat an enemy, then why should I even try?

If there is no exp and/or loot dropped from each enemy but rather everyone is awarded exp and loot at the end of the battle, then I don't see a problem however, that means that the system does need to track each participants damage and/or healing to determine the proper rewards.

But if I get nothing for helping another player or party, I'm just gonna watch and hope they wipe, then try to steal the claim (esp. if it's an NM).

[Dakotacj]

Can someone help me out? I've read through most of this topic and I can't figure out why people are against the new claiming system besides fears over power leveling(which happens in every MMO). A detailed list of problems would help if someone has the time.

The new system reads solid to me. I mean, we are going from a system where I get nothing for killing stuff because I am killing other stuff, to a system where I get rewarded for killing as many stuffs as I want. Sounds like an upgrade, right?

As far as the power leveling bit, there's already a ton of RMTs out now, and the way I see it, they'll just come out in full force instead of just leveling via leves (which is also how they make their gil atm).

Personally, I don't care about the power leveling. I'm against the system because of how NMs will be now, and honestly, if I'm fighting a mob, I don't want anyone else hitting it unless they're in my party. If I'm fighting something, it's because I like the challenge of fighting it, or I'm testing to see how much SP/EXP I can get off it, or I'm farming it. As far as NMs, anyone that thinks that NMs will be Easy Mode with 40+ people beating on it are out of their bloody minds and have never heard of the concept of TP Feed. Yeah I'll sound a bit harsh with that last statement, but I pay attention to the game's mechanics rather than just beating everything I see. Allowing several parties of people to hit a NM is just asking to MPK the claiming party until they wipe and lose claim.

Frankly, I believe this takes away from the challenge of the game, and the fun. SE games are known for their challenges and I like that, but everyone just wants an Easy Mode. If they really do add this in, and this idea has been thrown around, I demand a /nohelp or /blockaid type command to prevent people outside the party from attacking mobs you claim.