[dev1026] Changes to Claiming and Engaging Enemies

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Who says I don't like the other changes?

You assumed that I hated instanced content.. False.



Um what, you mean in one other thread, that was discussing the same exact topic? Surely you can't be serious.

Materia, stat revamp, physical level removal, saved skills per class, etc, etc, etc are all GREAT updates. God forbid I disagree with 1.

One other thread? I guess that is the only thread we have vehemently opposed one another but there are many where I am on the other side of a discussion. It generally goes the same way. I never said or assumed you didn't like any of the current changes I am talking about past topics where I have see you posting about this or that.

You said you didn't want the game to be 90% instanced content and that is my point, not that you necessarily hate instances but you don't want the game to be that way and it is regardless. Are you going to bite the bullet and just stick with the game? I do assume you are the type of player who will stick around and play the game even if you don't care for some of the changes instead of others who will quit on the drop of a hat if they make the game resemble any other successful mmo.

Thats not entirely true though Yoshi has said he wants to make fights more difficult and take longer, which I thought great finally the zergfest is over and we can get on with strategy. However they then announce this crazy claim system which completely removes the challenge they say they are adding to the game because now I can just get an R50 outside the party to kill it for me. So what is the point in them spending time to make fights more challenging if they are going to ruin it like this.

People can say well most people probably won't use a PL, well I wish i could believe that but using the whole leve abandoning thing as a basis I imagine a lot will. With Leve abandoning people said the same thing when it started and then I am sure by the end the majority of players were doing it, I know I was and out of every person I know I can't think of anyone who wasn't by the end.

I don't ever remember him saying he wanted to make leveling harder actually quite the opposite he has been pushing the bill to make it more casual friendly so players can level up quicker and enjoy the game at higher levels with friends. Technically he already did nerf the SP for guildleves as group content and made it more viable to exp in grind groups.

Also you say the new claim system removes the challenge and as far as claiming goes it is still the same, a group still gets the claim and the loot for grabbing the monster first and defeating it. Only thing that has changes is now people can attack the mobs, didn't he say though either in the last post or one prior he was looking into making it where you couldn't help kill NMs though? I could be wrong but I thought I read that somewhere, again we don't have the full details of how the system will work in its entirety.

[Murugan]

One other thread? I guess that is the only thread we have vehemently opposed one another but there are many where I am on the other side of a discussion. It generally goes the same way. I never said or assumed you didn't like any of the current changes I am talking about past topics where I have see you posting about this or that.

You said you didn't want the game to be 90% instanced content and that is my point, not that you necessarily hate instances but you don't want the game to be that way and it is regardless. Are you going to bite the bullet and just stick with the game? I do assume you are the type of player who will stick around and play the game even if you don't care for some of the changes instead of others who will quit on the drop of a hat if they make the game resemble any other successful mmo.

The game is 90% instanced content?

Even if we include 1.19 and quantify "content" as only dungeons/NM/quests it is not even close.

There will be 5 instanced raids, 1 open world dungeon, dozens of open world NM's, open world invasion events, and plenty of open world quests (some which have instanced content). That's not 90% by far, and just because they said that they plan to put a lot of endgame content in instances does not mean it will ever be anywhere close to 90%.

If they were abandoning open world content in favor of mostly instanced I imagine we wouldn't have plans for 2 open world dungeon areas and open world NM's they recently announced.