Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
Why am I not surprised at some of the knee-jerk reactions to a system that no one's even had the chance to experience yet. Give it a chance folks, I didn't like it when I first read the plans, but after reading Yoshida's explanation, I actually prefer the upcoming system.

Can you PL with this new system? Yes, but the person (or people) you are PLing have to perform an action on the monster in order to get exp, and if they retain the exp system they have now, you'll get reduced exp if you don't perform an action on the monster when it is at full HP. That sounds like more of a hassle to PLers than the current system...

How to PL with the current system:
Party with low-level person, tell them to auto-follow you and afk and create a path of destruction. If you're lucky enough to be PLing 7 other people of the same level range, everyone will actually gain 7/8 of the exp they would have obtained if the PL wasn't there and nobody even has to do anything (except the PL).

Honestly, I think this new system makes it harder to PL. There are upsides and downsides to all claiming systems, and it's impossible to please all crowds, but this seems like a capable solution to me.

All the above doesn't even take into account the benefits of being able to claim multiple monsters at once. I don't know about you guys, but it's not terribly uncommon to have several un-grouped leve monsters all clustered together, and if you don't want gimped exp from them, you'll have to either be very careful about how you pull them, or just deal with getting beat on while you just take down one at a time; careful not to AOE. Plus, last night I was doing that Garlean Invasion mini-quest thing at Horizon. You don't get credit (or the chance at loot) for killing most of the Garleans if you use AOEs and kill them unclaimed; that was very frustrating.
they try to tie the idea of claiming multiple monsters or getting reward for killing multiple monsters to having a free kill system, but there is no real connnection. They are doing free kill because they want to, they are choosing to do first claim gets all rewards because they want to. It really has nothing to do with claiming multiple monsters.

I would be fine with the change if it made sense, but it really doesnt. The only difference between the free kill system thry plan to do, and having only one person/party claim is that you kill for no reward. I really dont see the point. the only thing it will effect is power leveling. They have not talked about any new mechanics or things that will take advantage of this system, because there really is no advantage.

What does this have to do with mass scale pve or pvp? they want to have a huge event where you can take part in an epic battle, help everyone, risk your life, maybe die....
and get no reward? no exp, no loot not even quest credit? Its really senseless. It could be interesting, but with the reward system, it just seems like a call for help option is always on. It was always stupid how in FFXI you could help kill an HNM for an hour, getting swapped in and out of parties, but only the team that finished him got credit. SO now, you wont be able to swap in an out, but you can also help them for nothing! what a crappy plan. Screw simple answers, they should have came up with a real system for distributing rewards rather than the first claim nonsense.