[dev1026] Changes to Claiming and Engaging Enemies

[Estellios]

I really like this idea. I don't see how it's any different than standing there spamming cure on people while they take 5 minutes to kill something that otherwise would murder them.

People were complaining that having Toto-rak uncapped would mean that no one would do it at r25-r30 and everyone would murder their way through on r50s, but that hasn't been the case at all in the many many parties I've done for it. It's a lot more fun doing it at-rank. This game is being made around choosing how you want to play, and this is another option.

Most of the people I know stopped playing very early on after starting around launch, and they have been keeping an eye on updates. If they return I can help out in multiple ways now depending on what's more fun for myself and for them.

If you want to play without a PL, and I prefer it personally, then more power to you. You are not restricted with having to have a full party to XP in this game, and c'mon, everyone in this game right now is itching to party together. Grab who's there and go xp.

[thepinksupervisor]

Did nobody notice the large scale pvp words?

[Andrien]

You can get power leveled from Lv1 to Lv90 in Final Fantasy XI right now while in a party or alliance.

So, I'll file this as not an issue.

[Lionix]

I felt 7 kinds of butthurt for an instant.
Then I realized the same guy that gets PL'd to high heavens hits a wall when he can't be PL'd no more, misses on so much actual "experience" (not the game attribute) and enjoyment-- Hey, his loss. I was afraid that they will be a whole lot less people to party with at lower levels but... Is that the kind of people I want to party with?

Live and let live, eh?

[Rinsui]

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It's not like I don't see the benefits to allowing new players to
"catch up" with their friends in a few days; but something is lost
when the whole game focuses only on the so-called "end-game".

Imagine a FF7 that starts with a train ride at LV1, then two days
of afk leveling, and the next thing you know is you're dealing
9999 damage to some faceless underdeveloped Sephiroth.
Nothing in-between. No story. No challenging content, because,
hey, Sephiroth is waiting @LV99.

What people seem to not realize is that by focusing entirely on
how to facilitate leveling, SE conjures up a situation where
mid-level content becomes meaningless because it's possible
to blast through that level range in a few days anyway.

I loved my Borea Cesti in FFXI. Because I knew I could use them
for a while (Promyvions!). In FFXIV, I do not even bother to
kill a mid-level NM @50, because the dropped equipment becomes
useless within days and thus is nothing more than some Rare/Ex
stuff that cluters my inventory.

Very disappointed here. But if it is for the "greater good" (of bringing
in fresh, new players), I guess I will, heavy-heartedly, adapt.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

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if you wanna pay for PL it's a your problem. Also, in almost every game there's a way to PL, so people PL. FFXI had a claiming sistem when nobody could touch the mob after been claimed, and PL existed. People will figure out a method to PL if they have the choise, not much to argue.
Btw, stating PL will be possible, don't mean it's required to exp

And also, it's still better of legalized RMT made in blizzard *coff coff*

[DonMega]

if you wanna pay for PL it's a your problem. Also, in almost every game there's a way to PL, so people PL. FFXI had a claiming sistem when nobody could touch the mob after been claimed, and PL existed. People will figure out a method to PL if they have the choise, not much to argue.
Btw, stating PL will be possible, don't mean it's required to exp

And also, it's still better of legalized RMT made in blizzard *coff coff*

Yep i did alot of PL parties in FFXI with a character selling player that would have me set up the parties for free PLing lol and then met a friend who SMN burned so i did that alot and then abyssea lol thats when i quit. it was there in FFXI so all it is now with this new claim system is just easier. I look foward to the new system and what they do with it.

[Genz]

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but some weeks ago, the devs said there was no plan to change the rule that forbids to invite players in the party while engaged in a fight. With the removal of the exclusivity-claiming system, I'm not sure to see the reason of keeping this rule. Are there any changes planned?

[Sephr]

Well, this thread has turned me off the game pretty harshly for the foreseeable future if Bayohne's post from Yoshi is correct.

Do you guys really think people won't just dual-box their way up? The idea that the rank 50 is sacrificing their time is bogus, because players and RMT can operate numerous characters at a time. This system is going to take away any sense of achievement that character progression brings if you're leaving it as you say.

Secondly, it sounds like the overworld is taking a backseat pretty majorly to instances in the future. This is really disappointing for me, I absolutely hate WoW's system of all instanced content, the world feels dead and pointless, you might as well be sitting in a lobby waiting for the next game. I was hoping we were getting a good balance between some overworld bosses and things to do whilst also having the instances there as an option, not a necessity.
In my opinion, instance runs should be special, not something you grind. That's a terrible archaic design that's dying pretty fast when it comes to other new games coming out, rather than the 10 year old ones that seem to be being used as benchmarks.

Anyways, rant off.

[Kaida]

news players to the game will be boned if they don't know anyone way to go!